Wow - all that buying of toilet paper doesn't look so silly now... lets hope everyone maintains good toilet hygiene... its present in the poop for a long time!
JellyandJackson wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Thank you TopBadger.
We’re now much more concerned for her mates doing chemistry & biology who won’t get to do their practicals.
They won't necessarily cover the practical syllabus contents, but these books may be of interest...
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
Wow - all that buying of toilet paper doesn't look so silly now... lets hope everyone maintains good toilet hygiene... its present in the poop for a long time!
To be accurate, viral RNA is present in faeces: but what is unknown is whether it is 'viable' - that is, can it infect somebody else? Quite a few people will be looking for evidence either way.
For example, it could be that the digestive tract is not a good place for the lipid bilayer coat that envelops the RNA, so the RNA found is a result of virus particles being damaged and rendered incapable of infection by normal digestive conditions. On the other hand, the virus might be quite capable of surviving all that, and the faecal route is a potent source of infection. We just don't currently know.
Wow - all that buying of toilet paper doesn't look so silly now... lets hope everyone maintains good toilet hygiene... its present in the poop for a long time!
JellyandJackson wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Thank you TopBadger.
We’re now much more concerned for her mates doing chemistry & biology who won’t get to do their practicals.
If it helps, I will be spending the next x weeks, carrying out all AQA required practicals to give reference results when school resumes
I'll be on here as much as I can if they have any questions
Thank you, and thanks Gfamily too. Truly, you people are splendid.
A thousand strawberry lollies and the princess of Lichtenstein.
Tim Martin, who runs a lot of pubs, is saying that there is almost no transmission of the virus in pubs (for once in a blue moon I find myself agreeing with Piers Morgan, who is unimpressed), and the UK should definitely not close the pubs.
Also he seems to think the Prime Minister should get pissed.
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Little waster wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:47 pm
Received an email from the bairn's school regarding the school closing tomorrow, so loads of notice.
Basic points are the school are going to post online various resources and activities to try and keep the kids' hand in in regards to English and Maths; all other aspects of the curriculum are to to be covered by watching Horrible Histories and Blue Planet(!).
In regards to "key workers", the school acknowledges that that is a thing but states they've yet to receive any guidance at all from the Government of who constitutes a key worker. So that's obviously going to work grand.
As a follow-up the Littlest Waster's primary school got the official list of key workers ... at 1am this morning, the teachers are now figuring out how this going to work as we speak too late to pass this onto the parents easily.
Went to pick up an activity pack this afternoon with further work to follow by email. Also picked up the key worker form for Mrs Waster, they iterated that the school would only take the kids if both parents are key workers/single-parent family which is NOT what I understand government policy is so confusion still reigns.
Heard from a Deputy Head acquaintance of mine at a local secondary school. They did a quick headcount today of how many children are covered by the key worker policy (presumably following the one parent rule) of a school of 1600, 800 will be eligible, once again rendering the whole exercise fairly pointless.
Today and yesterday groups of teenagers have been aimlessly wandering the streets round here during the school day.
This place is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here, nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
Pucksoppet wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:38 am
Which is disappointing, to say the least. Normally kids love finding holes in adults' arguments, and gleefully point out inconsistencies. I'm sorry you had a bad experience of it.
Perhaps it could be taught in a better way than they way you experienced?
I haven't met you IRL as far as I know, but I hope you will allow me to assume that you, like most of the members of this board, love finding holes in other people's arguments. It's possibly the #1 reason many of us are here, probably associated with an IQ over 120 (i.e., in the top 10% of the population).
I was that kid too -- when I was 9 I had a teacher whose every spelling mistake I pointed out gleefully (she hated it, but I thought, FFS, just learn how to spell). But it does not surprise me in the least that most kids would not enjoy this. Many of them have trouble fully understanding a lot of abstract concepts anyway, and resort to rote learning to get through exams (even I did that for O-level Latin).
My eldest daughter has discussed that with me. She made a deliberate choice to actively correct her French teacher at GCSE because she realised that otherwise her teacher was giving the kids incorrect information about French grammar and vocabulary. That was quite a common occurrence, unfortunately. We were amused to see that when her younger siblings came to GCSE French, the teacher was using her work as model answers - we recognised the handwriting as well as the wording.
For me, I did the same, but it was never as common and just correcting brain-farts which happen to anyone.
lpm wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:57 pm
The correct Brexit parallel is when we were disputing UK experts by quoting EU experts. Currently we are disputing UK experts in exactly the same way. Plus we can quote contradictory things that UK experts and politicians are saying - e.g. when they claim one thing but do another.
Loosely related to the above topic, this piece by Simon Wren-Lewis is worth a read:
sTeamTraen wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:24 am
Do we have enough cases/deaths/understanding of testing patterns yet to understand why Germany is having so few deaths relative to its neighbours?
Um, they have more ventilators per head? It has to be a difference in treatment or testing, I suppose.
TopBadger wrote:Telling people we're more weeks behind Italy than we are as per numbers is more likely to be an attempt to control panic than to be accurate with the science.
Like not mentioning all the scary provisions in the emergency bill, or telling us how many ICU beds are left.
And look how well that's working out. Perhaps it would've worked better if they didn't have Johnson doing a press conference every day. It's painful to watch when a journalist asking him a perfectly reasonable question that anyone could have come up with, like 'who are these key workers then?' and he answers 'we'll tell you tomorrow'. The last thing you want a leader to do right now is seem unprepared, and yet that's how he comes across.
Or to have his bl..dy dad immediately contradict the advice.
sTeamTraen wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:10 pm
Tim Martin, who runs a lot of pubs, is saying that there is almost no transmission of the virus in pubs (for once in a blue moon I find myself agreeing with Piers Morgan, who is unimpressed), and the UK should definitely not close the pubs.
Also he seems to think the Prime Minister should get pissed.
sTeamTraen wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:24 am
Do we have enough cases/deaths/understanding of testing patterns yet to understand why Germany is having so few deaths relative to its neighbours?
Um, they have more ventilators per head? It has to be a difference in treatment or testing, I suppose.
TopBadger wrote:Telling people we're more weeks behind Italy than we are as per numbers is more likely to be an attempt to control panic than to be accurate with the science.
Like not mentioning all the scary provisions in the emergency bill, or telling us how many ICU beds are left.
And look how well that's working out. Perhaps it would've worked better if they didn't have Johnson doing a press conference every day. It's painful to watch when a journalist asking him a perfectly reasonable question that anyone could have come up with, like 'who are these key workers then?' and he answers 'we'll tell you tomorrow'. The last thing you want a leader to do right now is seem unprepared, and yet that's how he comes across.
Or to have his bl..dy dad immediately contradict the advice.
How many journalists have been sent out to try and get a picture of Stanley in the pub tonight.
The higher CFR for men seems to be retained in other countries, ones with not such a sharp smoking differential as China. Maybe the simple story of women suffer more, die less?
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