UK Track and Trace Apps
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The government wants everyone to get new phones so the amount of 5G increases so they can perpetuate the coronavirus hoax and make everyone stay at home indefinitely which benefits them in some way
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Got some tins and a length of string.
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"can't smell string = you have covid"
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Also if the string is at least 2 metres long it will help with not catching it.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Now, about your telly...
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
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Weird there's no inbox for notifications. I've just checked mine and can't see anything either. Maybe phone Test & Trace?MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 amMy phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
What's to be gained by not having a repository for notifications in the app? Odd design choice, to say the least.
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I think thats an example of an issue that can be raised here.
https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/create-case/
https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/create-case/
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Done, thanks.Gfamily wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:37 amI think thats an example of an issue that can be raised here.
https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/create-case/
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There was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's linkMartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 amMy phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
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"In some way" = "More kickbacks from Bill Gates". Duh.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:44 amThe government wants everyone to get new phones so the amount of 5G increases so they can perpetuate the coronavirus hoax and make everyone stay at home indefinitely which benefits them in some way
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On some level I feel bad for preferring advice from a random anonymous person* on the internet over a government approved app, but that's where we're at I guess.bagpuss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 amThere was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's linkMartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 amMy phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
*No disrespect intended bagpuss
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MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 pmOn some level I feel bad for preferring advice from a random anonymous person* on the internet over a government approved app, but that's where we're at I guess.bagpuss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 amThere was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's linkMartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 amMy phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
*No disrespect intended bagpuss
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According to the BBC...MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 amMy phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54326267
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ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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I have the Virginia version of this app. I get weekly notifications reminding me that it's turned on and working. It's very clear that these are NOT exposure notifications. If the UK app can't tell the difference, then it's a load of crap to blame that on Apple and Google.
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Yeah the Italian app also occasionally pops up a notification just to say that it's still working. It says something like "Exposure notifications are on" (the app actually has a pretty good English translation). It will also pop up to warn me if bluetooth is off for some reason.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Yep I get that on the Scotland one too.
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Yes, the Scottish one has a weekly message just letting you know it's still running, and it's pretty clear that thats all it is.
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Mine popped a message up which wasn’t totally clear but I didn’t think it was warning me of a problem.
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Actually I noticed by tapping on it that the notification comes from the operating system, which then shows you the app which is using the API.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Well I had another notification on my lockscreen. I was a bit more careful this time and when I unlocked the phone there was a notification icon at the top of the screen. Pulling down revealed a message saying something like "Someone near you has tested positive for COVID19 ...". I assumed there would be more info available and clicked on the notification, but that just opened the app which has no notification record inside it and of course the notification has disappeard.
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I wonder if this means that you've been briefly in range of someone who's tested positive but that the system/app has assessed the contact as minimal or very low risk or whatever - eg if the bluetooth signal was weak and you were only in range for a very brief time.MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:48 amWell I had another notification on my lockscreen. I was a bit more careful this time and when I unlocked the phone there was a notification icon at the top of the screen. Pulling down revealed a message saying something like "Someone near you has tested positive for COVID19 ...". I assumed there would be more info available and clicked on the notification, but that just opened the app which has no notification record inside it and of course the notification has disappeard.
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Possibly, but it really shouldn't be this ambiguous should it?!
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It appears that random sites on the internet have more information than the NHS site: https://twitter.com/brad_lead/status/13 ... 6211262466