...does he have one? Apart from starting this fire in the first place, of course. And f.cking a pig.plodder wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:06 amWe know Johnson isn't a zealot - he doesn't appear to have any strong political principles. I think he's probably scared witless of No Deal. He's seen what happened to Cameron's legacy.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:16 pmLee Cain is out, rumours about Cummings and Frost next.
If Johnson is to go for a deal then he’d want them out first.
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If truth is many-sided, mendacity is many-tongued
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time honoured solurion: kick it into the grass. We'll see handover periods, transitional states, yearly reviews etc.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:07 amYes, I expect he is. But I also suspect that he's scared of any deal that the EU would accept. From John Major onwards the brexit zealots in the party and media have made life hell for every Tory Prime Minister. Johnson doesn't want to see his legacy being written as the traitor who sold Britain down the river just weeks before it would liberate its self from the Brussels tyranny.plodder wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:06 amWe know Johnson isn't a zealot - he doesn't appear to have any strong political principles. I think he's probably scared witless of No Deal. He's seen what happened to Cameron's legacy.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:16 pmLee Cain is out, rumours about Cummings and Frost next.
If Johnson is to go for a deal then he’d want them out first.
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I think even among Tories Cameron's legacy is that he is regarded as a lazy, useless, short-sighted fool whose policies were reversed as soon as he left power.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:54 pm
...does he have one? Apart from starting this fire in the first place, of course. And f.cking a pig.
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And yet, it's hard not to think that he'd have done a better job than Johnson. Amazing, I suppose.
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The alcoholic tramp who shouts at the traffic outside the railway station could do a better job than Johnson.
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.
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Swap them over, but only if you're prepared to accept more incompetent shouting at the traffic outside the railway station.
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Cummings to leave before Christmas.
Anyone would think he’s f.cking off before he has to deal with the realities of Brexit.
Anyone would think he’s f.cking off before he has to deal with the realities of Brexit.
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Link here if anyone needs it: https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cumm ... r-12130620Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:11 amCummings to leave before Christmas.
Anyone would think he’s f.cking off before he has to deal with the realities of Brexit.
Best explanation I can think of is that Johnson is preparing to accept the EUs conditions and Cummings doesn’t want to be seen to be responsible.
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Weren't there rumours that Johnson won't stay that much longer anyway?
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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I keep reading rumours of a new transition extension. It’s too late for that now. It would also need to be negotiated and ratified, with lots of difficult issues like the UK contribution to the EU budget. Probably harder to negotiate that over the next few days than finish the current deal.
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Unless we concede everything? Doesn’t sound likely though, impossible to spin in a positive light.
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Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:20 amLink here if anyone needs it: https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cumm ... r-12130620Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:11 amCummings to leave before Christmas.
Anyone would think he’s f.cking off before he has to deal with the realities of Brexit.
Best explanation I can think of is that Johnson is preparing to accept the EUs conditions and Cummings doesn’t want to be seen to be responsible.
Noticeably no mention of actually accomplishing anything.The Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:"In any government, you require people who are going to shake things up and come up with ideas, and he's actually been that person."
Still aren't the blue-bells lovely ...
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Isn't that Shipton in the driving seat? Why?
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Presumably because of his and Cummings shared interest in shuffling old dears off this mortal coil.
Sorry I meant "herd immunity".
Although TBF Shipman is a mere amateur compared to everyone's favorite super-predictor.
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https://www.cityam.com/brexit-eu-set-to ... 1-january/City of London to be shut out of EU with no equivalence deal from January
Brussels looks set to lock the City of London out of European markets from 1 January, with the EU not planning on granting regulatory equivalence before the end of the Brexit transition period.
City A.M. understands the UK’s financial services firms are heading toward the default position of having to deal with individual host countries’ regulatory regimes from next year.
The decision will be a serious blow for the City of London, which wanted a fresh EU-wide deal since the UK exports around £26bn of financial services to the EU annually.
Equivalence, which gives non-EU countries access to European financial markets, is granted when Brussels rules an outside country has similar financial services regulations to its own.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak said on Monday the UK would grant equivalence to EU and EEA financial services firms, ensuring they can continue to have access to UK markets.
I remember that over the years it was often claimed that the EU had to offer the UK generous terms as the EU was dependant upon the UK financial services sector. It obviously isn't dependent now, even if it was earlier.
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£26bn a year you say.
Hmmm that's £500m a week. I wonder what part of the NHS we'll need to cut to fill that hole?
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Hmmm that's £500m a week. I wonder what part of the NHS we'll need to cut to fill that hole?
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Because I'm more exposed to US politics, I keep reading super-predictor as super-predator.Little waster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:22 amAlthough TBF Shipman is a mere amateur compared to everyone's favorite super-predictor.
Which a) is more appropriate, and b) sounds way cooler, like Arnie is going to try and stop you or something.
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There are other possibilities.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:20 amLink here if anyone needs it: https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cumm ... r-12130620Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:11 amCummings to leave before Christmas.
Anyone would think he’s f.cking off before he has to deal with the realities of Brexit.
Best explanation I can think of is that Johnson is preparing to accept the EUs conditions and Cummings doesn’t want to be seen to be responsible.
Maybe Cummings had a hissy fit and flounced cos Johnson gave a lucrative govt contract to one of Hancock's mates instead of one of Dom's mates.
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Supposedly gone already, according to Laura Kuenssberg - seen leaving Number 10 with a box https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54938050
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now the front page of the bbc, he's left with immediate effect apparently.Stephanie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:28 pmSupposedly gone already, according to Laura Kuenssberg - seen leaving Number 10 with a box https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54938050
wowzer. it's all falling apart.
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I think I saw a comment once by Cold War Steve that Shipman represents Covid in his images, as they share a habit of killing lots of elderly people.Little waster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:22 amPresumably because of his and Cummings shared interest in shuffling old dears off this mortal coil.
Sorry I meant "herd immunity".
Although TBF Shipman is a mere amateur compared to everyone's favorite super-predictor.
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Has anyone checked on Gwyneth Paltrow?Stephanie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:28 pmSupposedly gone already, according to Laura Kuenssberg - seen leaving Number 10 with a box https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54938050
And does anyone really clear their desk into a cardboard file and do that movie-trope walk out the front door? Talk about a manufactured photo-op. It's so emphatically saying "I have left" that I absolutely don't believe it. There's something else afoot here.
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Ostentatious is a good wordMartin Y wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:00 pmHas anyone checked on Gwyneth Paltrow?Stephanie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:28 pmSupposedly gone already, according to Laura Kuenssberg - seen leaving Number 10 with a box https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54938050
And does anyone really clear their desk into a cardboard file and do that movie-trope walk out the front door? Talk about a manufactured photo-op. It's so emphatically saying "I have left" that I absolutely don't believe it. There's something else afoot here.
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Supply chain problems in Northern Ireland
Much more at the link.
https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 96-brexit/The hardest aspect of the protocol remains retail food.
Under Article 5(4), Northern Ireland’s Department of Agriculture is responsible for applying the EU’s Official Controls Regulation (OCR) on food and animal products arriving from Britain.
Any lorries entering the UK from France, by contrast, will tend to be dominated by one, or a handful of categories of food, so the paperwork and costs will be simpler.
"That doesn’t work for Northern Ireland because of the way the just-in-time supply chain works," says Aodhán Connolly, chief executive of the Northern Ireland Retail Consortium.
"90% of the supermarket loads are consolidated [ie mixed]. If they are fresh loads then they can have one thousand, up to 2,000 different products. They can have, in the worst-case scenario, maybe 400 products of animal origin that will each require an export health certificate."
An export health certificate can cost between £50 and £200 depending on the product. Mr Connolly says that will make the high volume, low profit margin model of northern supermarkets unviable.
Last week, Sainsburys’ chief executive Simon Roberts told the Guardian: "If we don’t get greater clarity on the Northern Irish situation then we will see a restriction on the ranges of products we can sell. This is not one or two products in stores I am talking about, it is a substantial number of products and quite key, everyday products too."
Much more at the link.