Italian bridge collapse
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Replacement for the Morandi bridge now finished: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ly-morandi
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It's being tested by having heavy lorries drive on it, before the final asphalt gets laid down.
It's going to have a relatively low speed limit on it (70-80 km/h), because of the curves at the ends of it I think.
It's going to have a relatively low speed limit on it (70-80 km/h), because of the curves at the ends of it I think.
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Le Monde reports the ceremonial opening today, Monday August 3, of the new bridge in Genoa replacing the failed Morandi one less than 2 years after the fall.
The building of this very important new bridge seems to stand out as a massive concordant effort. Not even the pandemic has been able to hold it back significantly. Very interesting reading but this article is marked as "reserved to subscribers".
I know the Guardian has reported on this. Will the BBC take up this news and analysis?
The building of this very important new bridge seems to stand out as a massive concordant effort. Not even the pandemic has been able to hold it back significantly. Very interesting reading but this article is marked as "reserved to subscribers".
I know the Guardian has reported on this. Will the BBC take up this news and analysis?
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Yes.bmforre wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:19 amLe Monde reports the ceremonial opening today, Monday August 3, of the new bridge in Genoa replacing the failed Morandi one less than 2 years after the fall.
The building of this very important new bridge seems to stand out as a massive concordant effort. Not even the pandemic has been able to hold it back significantly. Very interesting reading but this article is marked as "reserved to subscribers".
I know the Guardian has reported on this. Will the BBC take up this news and analysis?
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Why does the BBC article say that his design is "echoing a giant ship"? It's literally a road on pillars. (ETA It's because Renzo himself used the word vascello maybe to feel like a road on pillars wasn't a boring thing to be designing.)
I mean, I'm glad Renzo Piano basically "just" designed a simple road on pillars instead of going for something flashy or gimmicky, as Morandi's original design was.
ETA the successful completion of this piece of motorway infrastructure in Genova may not be appreciated by anyone who's tried to actually get to Genova over the past few weeks and been stuck in hours of tailbacks due to roadworks which somehow couldn't have been done during the lockdown.
I mean, I'm glad Renzo Piano basically "just" designed a simple road on pillars instead of going for something flashy or gimmicky, as Morandi's original design was.
ETA the successful completion of this piece of motorway infrastructure in Genova may not be appreciated by anyone who's tried to actually get to Genova over the past few weeks and been stuck in hours of tailbacks due to roadworks which somehow couldn't have been done during the lockdown.
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Nice bridge. Looks nothing like a ship though.
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Interview with the boss of one of the four companies which worked 24/7 to make the concrete. Apparently the architect asked for "huggable" concrete.
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No. And neither did the boss, who then apparently asked for a more technical specification.
I can't remember which news program I saw it on.
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I'd have thought that if you were replacing a bridge that had collapsed in a notorious accident, you wouldn't want anything fancy.as being a bit inappropriate.
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Something like "familiar and trustworthy" as opposed to "innovative" maybe?
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The underside does look a bit like the hull of a ship, to be fair. And I expect the architect paid attention to its aesthetics because of all the people that will pass underneath it, as well as on top.
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It's open now and there were queues on it already. But that was partly due to people slowing down to take photos and videos.
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I drove over Vasco da Gama bridge today, picking up my sister from the airport.
Now that is a bridge that looks like a ship. I'm really quite fond of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_da_Gama_Bridge - look at those sails!![😍](//twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/svg/1f60d.svg)
Now that is a bridge that looks like a ship. I'm really quite fond of it.
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We've had quite a bit of rain here in Como - the lake is flooding into the town centre - but Piemonte has had it far worse, with a bridge near Novara collapsing having been reopened a few hours earlier.
(It had been closed when the level of the river was higher.)
(It had been closed when the level of the river was higher.)
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The had 6 months worth of rain in a few hours, apparently.
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God that's awful. The bit at the end where they show the victims' hats floating in the water bring home the tragedy.
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Ashes to ashes,
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Re: Italian bridge collapse
This Baltimore bridge seems to just fold.
Re: Italian bridge collapse
The momentum of a fully laden container ship doesn’t bear thinking about, the force transferred to the bridge footing and then the bridge itself will be far in excess of the design calcs.
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Re: Italian bridge collapse
Looks like the structure of the bridge would potentially land on top of vehicles under the water, making survival very difficult.
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