Astonishing levels of government corruption
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The gov doesn’t intend to publish details of the “priority lane” (ie friends and family) contracts as there may be “commercial issues”
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More details from the guy behind the good law project:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugha ... 8464155648
https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugha ... 8464155648
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It makes you want to go all Jacobin and start burning things. Not that I will, but damn someone needs to be in prison.
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That's mafia-level corruption if true.
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yes. the sort of corruption we’d expect to see in other countries, but not behind the special firewall of decency that magically protects the UK.
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Mmm, yes - already mentioned - but if it has more traction here..plodder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:02 pmMore details from the guy behind the good law project:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugha ... 8464155648
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I think it is fairly unusual amongst wealthy Northwest European democracies in recent decades, IMHO probably for systematic reasons which for whatever reason do not currently apply to the UK.
I mean amongst governments - plenty of financial sectors are this corrupt. Maybe the UK financial sector has greater influence over its government?
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Not that unusual amongst Noerhwest European governmentsBird on a Fire wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:28 amI think it is fairly unusual amongst wealthy Northwest European democracies in recent decades, IMHO probably for systematic reasons which for whatever reason do not currently apply to the UK.
eg https://www.thelocal.de/20160502/police ... stleblower
https://www.handelsblatt.com/english/co ... 40310.html
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If.
There doesn't appear to be any actual evidence.
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that’s not what the judge thinks who has agreed that the good law project have sufficient grounds to take the government to court...
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Don't forget the Belgian cabinet minister arrested for arranging a mafia hit on another minister in the 1990sWoodchopper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:48 amNot that unusual amongst Noerhwest European governmentsBird on a Fire wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:28 amI think it is fairly unusual amongst wealthy Northwest European democracies in recent decades, IMHO probably for systematic reasons which for whatever reason do not currently apply to the UK.
eg https://www.thelocal.de/20160502/police ... stleblower
https://www.handelsblatt.com/english/co ... 40310.html
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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I realised earlier today that this particular style of corruption is very reminiscent of how Putin and his cronies operate.
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Well it's good that there is evidence. My point was that the Twitter thread didn't present anything beyond "I got this from a reliable source". I look forward to the court hearings.
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It's a tricky question...
At what point does something transition from 'claim' to 'evidence'
And yes; you're right to challenge the 'unsubstantiated' claims; but it may be ideological to know whether to disregard them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the judicial reviews about the gov failing to comply with rules regarding tendering processes and so on rather than specifically cancelling contracts and offering them to other companies (and bribery)?
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Maybe yes, but imagine cancelling existing contracts and offering them to others for bribes would count as a breach of the tendering rules.discovolante wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:22 pmCorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't the judicial reviews about the gov failing to comply with rules regarding tendering processes and so on rather than specifically cancelling contracts and offering them to other companies (and bribery)?
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It would I'm sure, but plodder seems to be suggesting that the info in the twitter thread forms part of the existing proceedings and has been considered by the court, which as far as I can see doesn't seem to be the case.AMS wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:02 amMaybe yes, but imagine cancelling existing contracts and offering them to others for bribes would count as a breach of the tendering rules.discovolante wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:22 pmCorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't the judicial reviews about the gov failing to comply with rules regarding tendering processes and so on rather than specifically cancelling contracts and offering them to other companies (and bribery)?
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Disco is correct however the GLP is saying they've got multiple cases in the pipeline. They're also saying they can prove the latest stories and of course there are significant reputational risks if they're bullshitting. JQH is correct to say it's a case of Watch This Space.
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Just catching up this thread.discovolante wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:36 amHow do you actually get CBD for clinical research?FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:15 amThat is incredible levels of b.llsh.t. I've got students on placement at an actual pharma company that does proper CBD research - this bunch are just dicking about... (edited to remove the vaping bit - it appears they do creams too)...plodder wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:43 amMore incredible b.llsh.t:
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To be fair people living along the M20 corridor are going to need as much chemical assistance as they can find when their front gardens start turning into outdoor toilets in a few weeks.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:25 amBy growing a huge greenhouse full of cannabis plants in a top-secret location ... just off the M20. Say hi to Dave from me.
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In the sleepy Hampshire village I spent some years as a child, little old ladies would pop into the road after horses had past, and shovel their droppings into a wheelbarrow to use on the veg patch / rose garden.malbui wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:31 pmTo be fair people living along the M20 corridor are going to need as much chemical assistance as they can find when their front gardens start turning into outdoor toilets in a few weeks.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:25 amBy growing a huge greenhouse full of cannabis plants in a top-secret location ... just off the M20. Say hi to Dave from me.
I like to imagine that the little old ladies of Kent will be similarly enterprising about their new source of fertilizer from lorry-driver middens.
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Better the rose garden than the lettuce patch.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:31 pmIn the sleepy Hampshire village I spent some years as a child, little old ladies would pop into the road after horses had past, and shovel their droppings into a wheelbarrow to use on the veg patch / rose garden.malbui wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:31 pmTo be fair people living along the M20 corridor are going to need as much chemical assistance as they can find when their front gardens start turning into outdoor toilets in a few weeks.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:25 amBy growing a huge greenhouse full of cannabis plants in a top-secret location ... just off the M20. Say hi to Dave from me.
I like to imagine that the little old ladies of Kent will be similarly enterprising about their new source of fertilizer from lorry-driver middens.
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The New York Times has picked up the story: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... racts.html
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Related: https://www.ft.com/content/41d5fe0a-7b4 ... pe=blocked
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"The government just wanted the money out there". I kind of get it. Scheme's still open!