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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by EACLucifer » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:08 pm

dyqik wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:03 pm
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My point is that you could say exactly the same about absolutely anything.

You'll find lots of others from the extreme right who agree with you when you say vaccines cause autism. When you say 5G causes Covid. When you say 9/11 was a Jewish conspiracy. When you say the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was forced at gunpoint to rape children. When you say Covid-19 testing sites are temples to Anubis. When you say lizard-people fly UFOs out of the hollow earth through a hole at Antarctica.

Saying there's nothing incongruous about an environmentalist being part of the extreme right Qanon is to say nothing, because there's nothing incongruous about anything being part of the extreme right Qanon.
The KKK was also pretty pro-Native American, for various reasons that are probably only* of academic interest.

*i.e. exactly the sort of thing you lot want to know. But you know how to Google.
Sometimes, but they also sometimes targetted them, like when they went after the Lumbee in the 1950s in North Carolina. The Lumbee Tribe, many of them military veterans, ended up running them off with guns at the Battle of Hayes Pond.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by TimW » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:14 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:25 am
Jamiroquai insurrectionist hasn't, according to his mum, eaten since Friday as... the food he's been given in detention isn't organic.
ACCORDING TO HIS MUM??

Next she'll be telling us he's not the messiah.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

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TimW wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:14 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:25 am
Jamiroquai insurrectionist hasn't, according to his mum, eaten since Friday as... the food he's been given in detention isn't organic.
ACCORDING TO HIS MUM??

Next she'll be telling us he's not the messiah.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Woodchopper » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:07 pm

JQH wrote:
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Also, a mob that size must surely be a superspreader event.
Three lawmakers who sheltered during Capitol attack test positive for Covid
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:20 pm

EACLucifer wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:08 pm
dyqik wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:03 pm
lpm wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:27 pm
My point is that you could say exactly the same about absolutely anything.

You'll find lots of others from the extreme right who agree with you when you say vaccines cause autism. When you say 5G causes Covid. When you say 9/11 was a Jewish conspiracy. When you say the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was forced at gunpoint to rape children. When you say Covid-19 testing sites are temples to Anubis. When you say lizard-people fly UFOs out of the hollow earth through a hole at Antarctica.

Saying there's nothing incongruous about an environmentalist being part of the extreme right Qanon is to say nothing, because there's nothing incongruous about anything being part of the extreme right Qanon.
The KKK was also pretty pro-Native American, for various reasons that are probably only* of academic interest.

*i.e. exactly the sort of thing you lot want to know. But you know how to Google.
Sometimes, but they also sometimes targetted them, like when they went after the Lumbee in the 1950s in North Carolina. The Lumbee Tribe, many of them military veterans, ended up running them off with guns at the Battle of Hayes Pond.
They were more pro the idea(l) of Native-Americans than pro the actual Native-Americans.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pm

Apparently the insurrection was a Parler convention

https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breach ... 1846042905

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by jimbob » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pm
Apparently the insurrection was a Parler convention

https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breach ... 1846042905

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Fishnut » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:36 pm

The "shaman" is being given his "religiously-required" organic food. Unlike Muslim ICE detainees who were given the "choice" of eating pork or eating out-of-date food. So yet again the US authorities show they can deal with people proportionately and humanely. They just choose not to when the people they're dealing with aren't white.
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Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:19 am

jimbob wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pm
Apparently the insurrection was a Parler convention

https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breach ... 1846042905

Oh dear
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:44 am

Chiefs of the US Military have condemned Trump's coup attempt and affirmed their support for Biden. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/12/top-mil ... n-win.html

And we already know he didn't have the CIA's support, because they are the world-leaders at effecting coups.

So there's little risk of Trump doing what Bolsonaro's up to, and replacing the government with the (largely privatised) military to grab power.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Herainestold » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:05 am

lpm wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:54 am
No, this isn't some Nazi thing. Organic in America is different - standard food is so sh.t.

Nothing to do with Maga conspiracies. This is a country where people are used to govt/capitalists allowing water to be toxic and food to be packed with artificial chemicals. It's not much of a stretch to worry that a vial of vaccine will be made to the same standards. Many people across the political spectrum from fascist to new age come to similar conclusion - America doesn't give a damn about poisoning its citizens - and they've got some pretty good evidence in support.
I didn't realize food in America is so bad. I hear lots of talk about Whole Foods, and I know they import lots of organic food from China. Are you referring to GMOs? My understanding is they are not harmful, mostly good, and more prevalent on cereal crops and grains rather than the stuff you'd buy at Tesco.

Also find that is weird that organic is a right wing/ white supremacy phenomenon in the US, wheras here its hippies and Corbyn types.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by TimW » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:05 am

Meanwhile, Trump's speech at the Mexico border was ingeniously stage-managed to make it look like the wall has just been completed and is 50 metres long.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:23 am

Accusations that some Republicans gave reconnaissance tours to insurrectionists last Tuesday. Perhaps the same ones who refused to go through metal detectors last night?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... ack-458655

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... t-n1254011

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:44 am

Member of "the Squad, Ayanna Presley, went to her office and started barricading doors and found someone unknown (not apparently rioters) had ripped out the panic button unit!

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/ ... elegation/

Jim Clyburn has already said that the mob went for the unmarked office where he has been working rather than the one with his nameplate.

Jesus. We're living in an episode of 24.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by jimbob » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:04 am

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:44 am
Member of "the Squad, Ayanna Presley, went to her office and started barricading doors and found someone unknown (not apparently rioters) had ripped out the panic button unit!

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/ ... elegation/

Jim Clyburn has already said that the mob went for the unmarked office where he has been working rather than the one with his nameplate.

Jesus. We're living in an episode of 24.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:14 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:04 am
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:44 am
Member of "the Squad, Ayanna Presley, went to her office and started barricading doors and found someone unknown (not apparently rioters) had ripped out the panic button unit!

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/ ... elegation/

Jim Clyburn has already said that the mob went for the unmarked office where he has been working rather than the one with his nameplate.

Jesus. We're living in an episode of 24.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Little waster » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:38 pm

First insurrectionist terrorist is executed by lethal injection. :shock:








Sorry my bad, I meant mentally-ill, mentally-handicapped, sexual abuse victim.



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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Fishnut » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:43 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:44 am

Jesus. We're living in an episode of 24.
It's reminded me of Designated Survivor
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:19 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:43 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:44 am

Jesus. We're living in an episode of 24.
It's reminded me of Designated Survivor
I really liked the first episode of that which can be watched in isolation but it got far too far fetched after that until of course reality caught up.

Video of the group planning taking the building. f.cking traitors. This is not just a couple of people in the crowd - it’s f.cking astonishing

https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/statu ... 82592?s=21
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by FlammableFlower » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:33 pm

Seems Ted Cruz's communications director can't cope with his sh.t any more and has resigned.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:50 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:33 pm
Seems Ted Cruz's communications director can't cope with his sh.t any more and has resigned.
After working for him for 18 months

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Fishnut » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:20 pm

An open letter from the founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation
We warned you that this radical, right-wing influence found not only at USAFA, but tolerated or even endorsed by senior officers throughout the Air Force, caused a toxic leadership environment and eroded unit cohesion, good order, morale, and discipline. We constantly worried and warned that these seemingly (to some) innocuous events would lead to embarrassment for our Air Force Academy or worse — and that’s exactly what’s happened.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Woodchopper » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:03 pm

Members of Congress gave ‘reconnaissance’ tours a day before attack on U.S. Capitol, Rep. Mikie Sherrill says

A New Jersey congresswomen said Tuesday she witnessed members of Congress lead “reconnaissance” tours the day before a deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of President Donald Trump.

U.S. Rep. Mikie Sherrill, D-11th Dist., made the comments during a 13-minute Facebook live Tuesday night in which she outlined what Congress is doing to hold those responsible for the attempted insurrection while criticizing colleagues she alleges incited the violence in an attempt to overturn the results of the presidential election.
https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/01/mem ... -says.html

Seems unclear whether the allegation is that the members of Congress knew what they were doing.

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