So it was with these gentlemen. He was the greatest patriot, in their eyes, who brawled the loudest, and who cared the least for decency. He was their champion who, in the brutal fury of his own pursuit, could cast no stigma upon them for the hot knavery of theirs. Thus, Martin learned in the five minutes’ straggling talk about the stove, that to carry pistols into legislative assemblies......were glowing deeds.
Then-President Donald Trump in early January entertained a plan to replace the acting attorney general with a different Justice Department lawyer who was more amenable to pursuing his unfounded claims of voter fraud, nearly touching off a crisis at the country’s premier federal law enforcement institution, people familiar with the matter said.
dyqik wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:02 am
The delay in starting the trial looks to have been engineered by both D's and McConnell to give time for more evidence and reasons to impeach.
Considering just how much he tried to get away with, they probably do need time to collate and collect the evidence against him. So much stuff keeps coming out.
Nearly every Senate Republican declared Tuesday that putting a former president on trial for impeachment is unconstitutional, indicating that the House’s case against Donald Trump is almost certain to fail.
The procedural vote, forced by Sen. Rand Paul, underscores the significant hurdles facing the House’s impeachment managers, who will need to convince at least 17 Republican senators in order to secure a conviction. Paul’s motion to declare the trial unconstitutional ultimately failed because Democrats opposed it; however, 45 GOP senators voted to affirm the Kentucky Republican's view, delivering an early and possibly fatal blow to the House’s case.
Nearly every Senate Republican declared Tuesday that putting a former president on trial for impeachment is unconstitutional, indicating that the House’s case against Donald Trump is almost certain to fail.
The procedural vote, forced by Sen. Rand Paul, underscores the significant hurdles facing the House’s impeachment managers, who will need to convince at least 17 Republican senators in order to secure a conviction. Paul’s motion to declare the trial unconstitutional ultimately failed because Democrats opposed it; however, 45 GOP senators voted to affirm the Kentucky Republican's view, delivering an early and possibly fatal blow to the House’s case.
Nearly every Senate Republican declared Tuesday that putting a former president on trial for impeachment is unconstitutional, indicating that the House’s case against Donald Trump is almost certain to fail.
The procedural vote, forced by Sen. Rand Paul, underscores the significant hurdles facing the House’s impeachment managers, who will need to convince at least 17 Republican senators in order to secure a conviction. Paul’s motion to declare the trial unconstitutional ultimately failed because Democrats opposed it; however, 45 GOP senators voted to affirm the Kentucky Republican's view, delivering an early and possibly fatal blow to the House’s case.
That's a last ditch attempt to avoid having evidence presented every night on the news. Evidence may change the political calculus considerably...
I wish I could believe you and that better natures will win out. But they won’t. Some of them like Cruz and Hawley are out and out fascists now, but others - more than the 12 more needed to convict - are just cowards, terrified of the base they helped whip up.
Calm yourself Doctor NotTheNineO’ClockNews. We’re men of science. We fear no worldly terrors.
It's what it does to the 20 Rs up for reelection in '22. It's 17 need to convict, btw.
Meanwhile, the president pro tem of the Senate, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was sworn in today, and then later taken to hospital for observation after feeling ill.
Which means the Dems don't have a majority until he can return, and he's supposed to preside when Harris isn't there.
dyqik wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:25 pm
It's what it does to the 20 Rs up for reelection in '22. It's 17 need to convict, btw.
Meanwhile, the president pro tem of the Senate, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was sworn in today, and then later taken to hospital for observation after feeling ill.
Which means the Dems don't have a majority until he can return, and he's supposed to preside when Harris isn't there.
I know it’s 17 to convict. I was - possibly optimistically -assuming the 5 who didn’t vote to throw the impeachment out may be more motivated to convict.
Calm yourself Doctor NotTheNineO’ClockNews. We’re men of science. We fear no worldly terrors.
dyqik wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:25 pm
Meanwhile, the president pro tem of the Senate, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was sworn in today, and then later taken to hospital for observation after feeling ill.
Which means the Dems don't have a majority until he can return, and he's supposed to preside when Harris isn't there.
That's a last ditch attempt to avoid having evidence presented every night on the news. Evidence may change the political calculus considerably...
I wish I could believe you and that better natures will win out. But they won’t. Some of them like Cruz and Hawley are out and out fascists now, but others - more than the 12 more needed to convict - are just cowards, terrified of the base they helped whip up.
I agree. Only 10 Republican members of the house voted to impeach. 197 voted no (and 4 didn’t vote). That’s the mood of the party.
We’re not going to see 17 Republican senators vote to impeach on the current evidence.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, when she announced her running for local office, was quoted effectively as saying 'lets put an end to all this helping people and looking after people, lets do away with rules and decency...'
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dyqik wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:25 pm
It's what it does to the 20 Rs up for reelection in '22. It's 17 need to convict, btw.
Meanwhile, the president pro tem of the Senate, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was sworn in today, and then later taken to hospital for observation after feeling ill.
Which means the Dems don't have a majority until he can return, and he's supposed to preside when Harris isn't there.
I know it’s 17 to convict. I was - possibly optimistically -assuming the 5 who didn’t vote to throw the impeachment out may be more motivated to convict.
Unfortunately they are not going to convict the c.nt, but it was nice of 5 of them to break ranks.
I hope the Biden administration is looking hard at making effective rules that end presidential impunity, because what with the emoluments and escaping impeachment it seems that everything Trump did as prez is legally fine, and (IMHO) some of it probably shouldn't have been.
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Donald Trump's former staff are having a difficult time finding jobs due to their association with the former president, according to reports from aides.
Politico spoke with former White House officials for the report.
According to the report, some former Trump staffers had job offers revoked from them in the wake of the Capitol insurrection that left five people dead and resulted in the second impeachment of the recently ousted president.
The aide that spoke with Politico said that Mr Trump has done little to help his former staffers find work.
"They are really f******. The Hill scramble, one of the few places where they'd be welcomed, already happened a month or so ago … They were told over and over to take their hand off the hot stove, and they didn't want to listen," an official said.
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:06 pm
I hope the Biden administration is looking hard at making effective rules that end presidential impunity, because what with the emoluments and escaping impeachment it seems that everything Trump did as prez is legally fine, and (IMHO) some of it probably shouldn't have been.
I dont think there is much they can do without changing the Constitution.
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There probably is, but in any case the last 4 years have been sufficiently obnoxious that amending the Constitution might actually be worth pursuing.
If enough Republicans won't vote for it, Biden should start breaking the exact same rules and donating all the money he steals to gay black trans eco-socialist collectives.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:34 pm
If enough Republicans won't vote for it, Biden should start breaking the exact same rules and donating all the money he steals to gay black trans eco-socialist collectives.
You're making a very rash assumption there that Republicans aren't duplicitous hypocrites, and can be shamed.
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:06 pm
I hope the Biden administration is looking hard at making effective rules that end presidential impunity, because what with the emoluments and escaping impeachment it seems that everything Trump did as prez is legally fine, and (IMHO) some of it probably shouldn't have been.
The one that gets me is the pardon power. Apparently based on the power of English kings by the founders. Thus kept getting mentioned with interest in who Trump might pardon. It surprised me, first that they chose to mimic that power when they wanted a break from monarchy, but secondly that they've kept tbe presidential pardon power.
In the UK hasn't it withered away amongst all of those royal prerogative powers that never get used?
Officially, this is a power of the monarch. Formally, in Commonwealth realms, this has been delegated to the governor-general of the realm, which in practice means to government ministers who advise the monarch or viceroy, usually those responsible for justice. Specifically, it has been delegated to the Lord Chancellor in England and Wales, the Scottish Ministers in Scotland, and the federal and provincial cabinets in Canada, in respect of federal and provincial offences.
Includes an example from 2020 so still being used apparently, just not by the monarch.
