Vaccine rollout in Nauru
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Vaccine rollout in Nauru
...is complete.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
You're probably well protected 2—3 weeks after the first jab.Brightonian wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:56 pm...is complete.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
Data from Israel indicates you are more susceptible after the first dose for up to a week. After 2 weeks you should take precautions as if you are un vaccinated.Brightonian wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:56 pm...is complete.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
Citation please.Herainestold wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:11 pmData from Israel indicates you are more susceptible after the first dose for up to a week. After 2 weeks you should take precautions as if you are un vaccinated.Brightonian wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:56 pm...is complete.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
I think this may be what H is thinking of: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21250957v1headshot wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:54 pmCitation please.Herainestold wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:11 pmData from Israel indicates you are more susceptible after the first dose for up to a week. After 2 weeks you should take precautions as if you are un vaccinated.Brightonian wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:56 pm...is complete.
Or rather, everyone's had their first jab. Annoys me when people imply having a first jab means you're vaccinated.
After initial injection case numbers increased to day 8 before declining to low levels by day 21. Estimated vaccine effectiveness was pretty much 0 at day 14 but then rose to about 90% at day 21 before levelling off. The cause of the initial surge in infection risk is unknown but may be related to people being less cautious about maintaining protective behaviours as soon as they have the injection. What our analysis shows is that a single dose of vaccine is highly protective, although it can take up to 21 days to achieve this.
Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
Ah. Missed off that rather important line at the end: “What our analysis shows is that a single dose of vaccine is highly protective”
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
That must be it, although it is not exactly how I recalled it. Thanks, I couldn't find it, you are truly a service to this forum.jdc wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:56 pmI think this may be what H is thinking of: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21250957v1headshot wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:54 pmCitation please.Herainestold wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:11 pm
Data from Israel indicates you are more susceptible after the first dose for up to a week. After 2 weeks you should take precautions as if you are un vaccinated.
After initial injection case numbers increased to day 8 before declining to low levels by day 21. Estimated vaccine effectiveness was pretty much 0 at day 14 but then rose to about 90% at day 21 before levelling off. The cause of the initial surge in infection risk is unknown but may be related to people being less cautious about maintaining protective behaviours as soon as they have the injection. What our analysis shows is that a single dose of vaccine is highly protective, although it can take up to 21 days to achieve this.
You are not considered fully vaccinated until two weeks after your second dose, so act accordingly.
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"fully vaccinated" is a pretty meaningless term, since even Pfizer doesn't give 100% protection x weeks after the nth dose.
But the publications do indicate that there's a decent amount of protection a few weeks after the first dose, both for Pfizer (1) and for AstraZeneca (2). I was originally critical of the UK's decision to not follow Pfizer's protocol but it turns out to have been a good call and various European countries are also considering leaving longer between doses. There may even be data indicating that leaving longer between Pfizer doses leads to greater overall efficacy.
Behaving as if you're unvaccinated isn't necessarily a terrible idea, for various reasons, but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it too hard.
1. see above
2. Single-dose administration and the influence of the timing of the booster dose on immunogenicity and efficacy of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine: a pooled analysis of four randomised trials
See also Effectiveness of First Dose of COVID-19 Vaccines Against Hospital Admissions in Scotland: National Prospective Cohort Study of 5.4 Million People.
But the publications do indicate that there's a decent amount of protection a few weeks after the first dose, both for Pfizer (1) and for AstraZeneca (2). I was originally critical of the UK's decision to not follow Pfizer's protocol but it turns out to have been a good call and various European countries are also considering leaving longer between doses. There may even be data indicating that leaving longer between Pfizer doses leads to greater overall efficacy.
Behaving as if you're unvaccinated isn't necessarily a terrible idea, for various reasons, but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it too hard.
1. see above
2. Single-dose administration and the influence of the timing of the booster dose on immunogenicity and efficacy of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine: a pooled analysis of four randomised trials
See also Effectiveness of First Dose of COVID-19 Vaccines Against Hospital Admissions in Scotland: National Prospective Cohort Study of 5.4 Million People.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
Yes, you have some reasonable protection two weeks after your first vax. As you point out even after full vaccinations, protection is not 100%.shpalman wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:06 am"fully vaccinated" is a pretty meaningless term, since even Pfizer doesn't give 100% protection x weeks after the nth dose.
But the publications do indicate that there's a decent amount of protection a few weeks after the first dose, both for Pfizer (1) and for AstraZeneca (2). I was originally critical of the UK's decision to not follow Pfizer's protocol but it turns out to have been a good call and various European countries are also considering leaving longer between doses. There may even be data indicating that leaving longer between Pfizer doses leads to greater overall efficacy.
Behaving as if you're unvaccinated isn't necessarily a terrible idea, for various reasons, but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it too hard.
1. see above
2. Single-dose administration and the influence of the timing of the booster dose on immunogenicity and efficacy of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine: a pooled analysis of four randomised trials
See also Effectiveness of First Dose of COVID-19 Vaccines Against Hospital Admissions in Scotland: National Prospective Cohort Study of 5.4 Million People.
So the question is, how should you act? In the face of this Indian variant, be cautious. After your first shot, do not resume any "normal" activities, stay masked, preferably double, keep distancing, don't go the pub. After the second dose, remember you are not invincible, be humble, be prudent, continue to mask and distance and protect your fellow citizen.
Masking forever
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
Tell me, have you ever walked down the stairs or crossed a road?Herainestold wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:26 pmYes, you have some reasonable protection two weeks after your first vax. As you point out even after full vaccinations, protection is not 100%.shpalman wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:06 am"fully vaccinated" is a pretty meaningless term, since even Pfizer doesn't give 100% protection x weeks after the nth dose.
But the publications do indicate that there's a decent amount of protection a few weeks after the first dose, both for Pfizer (1) and for AstraZeneca (2). I was originally critical of the UK's decision to not follow Pfizer's protocol but it turns out to have been a good call and various European countries are also considering leaving longer between doses. There may even be data indicating that leaving longer between Pfizer doses leads to greater overall efficacy.
Behaving as if you're unvaccinated isn't necessarily a terrible idea, for various reasons, but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it too hard.
1. see above
2. Single-dose administration and the influence of the timing of the booster dose on immunogenicity and efficacy of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine: a pooled analysis of four randomised trials
See also Effectiveness of First Dose of COVID-19 Vaccines Against Hospital Admissions in Scotland: National Prospective Cohort Study of 5.4 Million People.
So the question is, how should you act? In the face of this Indian variant, be cautious. After your first shot, do not resume any "normal" activities, stay masked, preferably double, keep distancing, don't go the pub. After the second dose, remember you are not invincible, be humble, be prudent, continue to mask and distance and protect your fellow citizen.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Nauru
I am just so afraid that we are going to lose all the progress we have made to this new variant, in the light of an incautious re-opening.headshot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:19 pmTell me, have you ever walked down the stairs or crossed a road?Herainestold wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:26 pmYes, you have some reasonable protection two weeks after your first vax. As you point out even after full vaccinations, protection is not 100%.shpalman wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:06 am"fully vaccinated" is a pretty meaningless term, since even Pfizer doesn't give 100% protection x weeks after the nth dose.
But the publications do indicate that there's a decent amount of protection a few weeks after the first dose, both for Pfizer (1) and for AstraZeneca (2). I was originally critical of the UK's decision to not follow Pfizer's protocol but it turns out to have been a good call and various European countries are also considering leaving longer between doses. There may even be data indicating that leaving longer between Pfizer doses leads to greater overall efficacy.
Behaving as if you're unvaccinated isn't necessarily a terrible idea, for various reasons, but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it too hard.
1. see above
2. Single-dose administration and the influence of the timing of the booster dose on immunogenicity and efficacy of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine: a pooled analysis of four randomised trials
See also Effectiveness of First Dose of COVID-19 Vaccines Against Hospital Admissions in Scotland: National Prospective Cohort Study of 5.4 Million People.
So the question is, how should you act? In the face of this Indian variant, be cautious. After your first shot, do not resume any "normal" activities, stay masked, preferably double, keep distancing, don't go the pub. After the second dose, remember you are not invincible, be humble, be prudent, continue to mask and distance and protect your fellow citizen.
There have been horrible policies on the part of our leaders, we know all that. We got the vaccination program right, and the roadmap was the right way to go, now at a critical point, we see new cases from a new variant, and instead of stepping back and locking down and dealing with it, we are going ahead. Madness. It is up to each of us as individuals to do whatever small thing we can to mitigate this new wave.
Masking forever
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again