Scrutable

Opti wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:01 pm It appears that Joe Biden has thrown some well-timed spanners in the works of not just the GOP election strategy but the whole MAGA business model.

Here's just one example. There are thousands of businesses whose whole model relied on Joe running. The timing of the announcement on a Sunday afternoon was a masterstroke that f.cked up the media as well.

Nice one Joe.

Opti wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:41 pm Aaaah. No I didn't.
But I bet there's a number of business people thinking just that.

dyqik wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:32 pm

bjn wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:24 pm I've heard noise around the idea that the Republicans will challenge any other Democratic nominee in the courts for procedural reasons I don't understand.

They can't if Harris is the nominee. She was on ticket that won the primary, and the delegates elected in the primary are her delegates.

If the Democrats pass over Harris without her stepping down, then about a third of the states have delegates that are bound by State law to vote for her for between one to four votes. Only Oklahoma permanently binds its delegates. They could be prosecuted if they voted against Harris, but it wouldn't change the nominee.

In all cases, the slot on the ticket goes to the nominee. There is no mechanism for states to decide who should be the nominee, any more than the Democrats can bring lawsuits challenging Trump being on the ballot as the nominee (lawsuits challenging him under the 14th Amendment are a different matter).

bjn wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:16 pm

dyqik wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:32 pm

bjn wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:24 pm I've heard noise around the idea that the Republicans will challenge any other Democratic nominee in the courts for procedural reasons I don't understand.

They can't if Harris is the nominee. She was on ticket that won the primary, and the delegates elected in the primary are her delegates.

If the Democrats pass over Harris without her stepping down, then about a third of the states have delegates that are bound by State law to vote for her for between one to four votes. Only Oklahoma permanently binds its delegates. They could be prosecuted if they voted against Harris, but it wouldn't change the nominee.

In all cases, the slot on the ticket goes to the nominee. There is no mechanism for states to decide who should be the nominee, any more than the Democrats can bring lawsuits challenging Trump being on the ballot as the nominee (lawsuits challenging him under the 14th Amendment are a different matter).

They are still trying it on though. The Republicans are asking the FEC to block transfer of funds from Biden's campaign to Harris's.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/23/poli ... index.html

Stranger Mouse wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:17 pm

Opti wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:01 pm It appears that Joe Biden has thrown some well-timed spanners in the works of not just the GOP election strategy but the whole MAGA business model.

Here's just one example. There are thousands of businesses whose whole model relied on Joe running. The timing of the announcement on a Sunday afternoon was a masterstroke that f.cked up the media as well.

Nice one Joe.

You do realise that link is to a parody though.

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 am
I'm amazed Trump didn't turn the murder victim into a martyr. Could have laid flowers, lit candles, pretended to pray. And why wasn't he at the hospital bedside of the two seriously injured?

Could it be Trump has lost his sense of the theatrical? He's a TV celeb who loves ratings and crowd size. Surely the old Trump would have been exploiting it, rather than hiding away?

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 am I'm amazed Trump didn't turn the murder victim into a martyr. Could have laid flowers, lit candles, pretended to pray. And why wasn't he at the hospital bedside of the two seriously injured?

Could it be Trump has lost his sense of the theatrical? He's a TV celeb who loves ratings and crowd size. Surely the old Trump would have been exploiting it, rather than hiding away?

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:29 am He has a long list of publicity stunts where he pretends to do or care about something. Going to that church and holding up a bible for example.

Obviously he would only do it for the cameras on him, and would resent footage of anyone else. But it's not like the focus would shift away. He was the target, the others are bit players.

His whole spiel on his crimes is "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you". He wants people to believe indictments are aimed at him but will hit supporters next.

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:29 am His whole spiel on his crimes is "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you". He wants people to believe indictments are aimed at him but will hit supporters next.

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:04 am Trump means voters, which is what I meant by supporters.

His cult members genuinely believe the Democrats are going to arrest them if Biden Harris wins in November. Who among us can be sure we won't be indicted for storing Top Secret docs in our ballroom?

Stranger Mouse wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:21 am

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:04 am Trump means voters, which is what I meant by supporters.

His cult members genuinely believe the Democrats are going to arrest them if Biden Harris wins in November. Who among us can be sure we won't be indicted for storing Top Secret docs in our ballroom?

Or hiding hush money to a p.rn star to influence an election

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 am I'm amazed Trump didn't turn the murder victim into a martyr. Could have laid flowers, lit candles, pretended to pray. And why wasn't he at the hospital bedside of the two seriously injured?

Could it be Trump has lost his sense of the theatrical? He's a TV celeb who loves ratings and crowd size. Surely the old Trump would have been exploiting it, rather than hiding away?

lpm wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:53 pm Holy fuk, did miss that. Now that's the mawkish cynicism I like to see in my favourite president.

Woodchopper wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:18 pm So, people have been amused by a completely fake rumour that Vance wrote about m.st.rbating using a sofa.

But he apparently searched for the keywords ‘woman’ ‘dolphin’ and posted a screenshot of what looks like a dolphin having sex with a woman.
https://x.com/tabitasurge/status/181673 ... 1zY-PW4R9w

insignificant wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:00 pm He probably heard about the dolphin thing and searched for it using those words. Most people would do that.^{[cetacean needed]}

But as with the couch thing (and Cameron and a pig), the truth doesn't matter if you antagonise enough people to make them think that the grubby alternative to the truth is plausible