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Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:31 pm
by sTeamTraen
malbui wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:25 pm the attractive farmland and woods in the south and south-west of the county
aka "East East Sussex"

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:49 pm
by Opti
Found on the world wide web.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:20 pm
by bolo
It amuses me that three of the examples include chips.

ETA also that the toast under the egg is barely toasted at all, while the toast under the avocado is burnt to a crisp.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:30 pm
by dyqik
Decent bread won't be available, either. Strong bread flour is grown overseas, and UK (and Canadian) wheat is only good for Chorleywood Process cheap nasty white bread. So your egg on toast will be on crap bread.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:46 pm
by Cardinal Fang
I'm very much approving of lobster and chips though

CF

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:58 pm
by Opti
Lobster and chips for the masses. So much tastier than bread and circuses.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:40 pm
by dyqik
On the "a gallon of milk"...

One gallon of milk makes a pound of cheese, or half a pound of butter. It also converts roughly one-to-one to yogurt. So you need to include your consumption of those in your milk ration.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:41 pm
by dyqik
On the chips: how is the UK off for cooking oil for frying?

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm
by FlammableFlower
dyqik wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:41 pm On the chips: how is the UK off for cooking oil for frying?
Surely (if only from the fields around where I am) we're ok for rapeseed oil?

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm
by bolo
dyqik wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:41 pm On the chips: how is the UK off for cooking oil for frying?
If fried in mutton fat, no worries, apparently.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:48 pm
by dyqik
FlammableFlower wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm
dyqik wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:41 pm On the chips: how is the UK off for cooking oil for frying?
Surely (if only from the fields around where I am) we're ok for rapeseed oil?
I don't know. I know there's a lot of area used for rapeseed, but I don't know how it compares to consumption, particularly after the UK is cut off from the olive oil wells of the Mediterranean.

The ham section and lack of mention of pork and beef makes me wonder if the lard supply is adequate, as well.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:19 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Don't worry, there's loads of potatoes. I don't see any reason why an island nation can't support itself entirely off potatoes, to be honest.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:09 pm
by dyqik
dyqik wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:30 pm Decent bread won't be available, either. Strong bread flour is grown overseas, and UK (and Canadian) wheat is only good for Chorleywood Process cheap nasty white bread. So your egg on toast will be on crap bread.
EPD has pointed out elsewhere that there's now better wheat in the UK than when the Chorleywood Process was developed. Although it's still used for 80% of the bread produced in the UK.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:09 pm
by AMS
This all ignores how perishable the different ingredients are. Fresh fruit and veg are going to be more of a problem than olive oil and wheat. (And I suspect wheat doesn't usually come in via RoRo ferries into Dover.)

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:21 pm
by plodder
You lot are laughing now, but you’re forgetting the traditional way the British acquire foreign goods at cut-down prices.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:42 pm
by Martin_B
jimbob wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:16 pm
David Schneider
@davidschneider
Actually I think you’ll find that it wasn’t that the Emperor in the story wasn’t wearing any clothes, he was wearing Australian-style clothes
Singlet, budgie-smugglers and thongs?

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:42 pm
by Little waster
plodder wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:21 pm You lot are laughing now, but you’re forgetting the traditional way the British acquire foreign goods at cut-down prices.
Buying them off Dodgy Dave in the pub just after he’s got back from a Calais hypermarket?

I think that avenue is shutting to us now as well TBH

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:49 pm
by monkey
dyqik wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:48 pm The ham section and lack of mention of pork and beef makes me wonder if the lard supply is adequate, as well.
Pork and beef count as mutton, apparently. As does chicken.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:24 am
by Bird on a Fire
Little waster wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:42 pm
plodder wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:21 pm You lot are laughing now, but you’re forgetting the traditional way the British acquire foreign goods at cut-down prices.
Buying them off Dodgy Dave in the pub just after he’s got back from a Calais hypermarket?

I think that avenue is shutting to us now as well TBH
Nah, he means an empire. We're gonna make Britain Great again!

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:04 am
by Bird on a Fire

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:12 am
by Bird on a Fire
Summary of outstanding level playing field/governance issues here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55273823

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:22 am
by Woodchopper
Brussels has warned EU governments not to break ranks or entertain the idea of side deals with Britain should trade talks fail, urging a firm line in order to force the UK back to the negotiation table “as soon as possible” after January 1.

According to a diplomatic note seen by the Financial Times, EU member states were warned by Brussels not to do anything that would ease the consequences of a no-deal end to the Brexit transition period on January 1.

One EU official familiar with the discussion said Brussels was under “no illusion” that a no-deal Brexit would be highly unpredictable. “Everyone understands there are no guarantees the British come back to the table.”
https://www.ft.com/content/e8858b30-026 ... b9ca540d11

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:56 am
by Martin Y
Woodchopper wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:30 pm Good if downbeat thread
https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1 ... 46593?s=21
That is indeed both good and downbeat.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:10 pm
by JQH
Bird on a Fire wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:19 pm Don't worry, there's loads of potatoes. I don't see any reason why an island nation can't support itself entirely off potatoes, to be honest.
I can't think of any historical precedents that suggest this would be a bad idea.

Re: Getting Brexit done

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:15 pm
by JQH
Opti wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:49 pm Found on the world wide web.

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Hmm. We may currently produce enough carrots and peas but will that be the case when everybody is buying them because there's no longer any other veg? And that's assuming they get harvested at all rather than rot in the fields because Priti Patel has sent all the Lithuanian pickers home.