Scrutable

bolo wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:48 pm

dyqik wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:23 pm The D's will stay united against someone like McCarthy, but they would negotiate for a moderate R, non-leadership and who didn't vote against certifying the 2020 election, I think.

I think this is not entirely clear, and in addition, a Republican candidate who was acceptable to enough Democrats would thereby lose a bunch of Republican votes.

An important point though is that you don't need an absolute majority, just a majority of those who vote for a named person. So McCarthy (or some other R) wouldn't actually need Democrat votes, just enough Democrats who miss the vote or vote "present". That's still a high bar, but a lower one than expecting a D to vote affirmatively for an R.

Grumble wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:50 pm I don’t suppose it will make a difference either way to Biden, but will he be able to do anything for the next two years?

monkey wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:41 pm Mcarthy's picked up a couple of the hold outs in this vote, and it's still early. Might get interesting.

ETA: And some more while I was writing.

dyqik wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:59 pm

monkey wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:41 pm Mcarthy's picked up a couple of the hold outs in this vote, and it's still early. Might get interesting.

ETA: And some more while I was writing.

6 against now, so not enough this round unless some Ds are missing in action.

In an interview with Fox News on Thursday, after McCarthy failed to gather enough support to be elected House Speaker in now 11 consecutive votes, Gaetz excluded the possibility of a deal between Republicans and Democrats to elect a moderate Republican as House leader, vowing to resign if one were chosen.