Scrutable

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:44 pm**

JQH wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:00 pm I don't see any such pretence.

well that's nice I suppose

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:08 pm**

IvanV wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:12 amThe published complaint letters always end by saying that they are ending their subscription. I suppose it doesn't have to be true that they have one

Wait, what? Next you’ll be telling me that Private Eye correspondents may not genuinely wonder whether people with passing but comic similarities could possibly be related, or whether the Editor has a photograph suitable to illustrate their observation on how baseball cap wearing can bring two people together across age and ethnic divides!

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:52 pm**

heh.

here's the imperial march played along to the stuffies in Westminster Hall, it's just right.

https://twitter.com/20thcenturymarc/sta ... 3140964358

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:50 pm**

headshot wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:33 pm My company had two performances cancelled by the National Trust this weekend. It would have meant about £6k in lost revenue there were to cover costs of about £3.5k. Luckily the Trust have said they will cover our losses. But they made the decision unilaterally. I think it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction…

What would be their contractual basis for that? A 96-year-old woman dying is hardly force majeure.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:53 pm**

IvanV wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:22 pm
TopBadger wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:40 am Still - another bank holiday eh?
Not brilliant for everyone, and those that suffer are usually the least well off. For such is how our kick-you-while-you-are-down institutions work.

Mean employers can legally remove it from your holiday allowance. I have come across people who have suffered this, typically in minimum or near-minimum wage employment. In fact, one of them once asked me if this could be true, and that is how I found it was. They were not very happy about it, to say the least.

For part-time employees, it can be a mixed blessing. A kind employer, giving employees an extra day off, might reasonably give part-time workers a fraction of a day off, pro-rated to the proportion of full time they work. That may work either well or badly for them depending what they would normally work on a Monday.

It's not just mean/kind. For many businesses (e.g. mine) the two extra days of bank holiday this year directly result in a 1% loss of revenue. Assuming fixed costs and a typical 5% profit margin, that's profits slashed by a straight 20%.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:21 pm**

The sledgehammer of conformity will cost us more than that by a county mile

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:59 pm**

I'd love to see a bit of total British conformity about the Queen, just out of curiosity, for about an hour.

Annoyingly she carked it right as I was boarding my flight home after a 6hr layover in Manchester. What a wasted opportunity. Nobody really mentioned it. The main topic of conversation was this guy on his stag dressed in a (genuinely very well-done) pigeon costume. As, IMHO, is meet and right.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:26 pm**

plodder wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 pm please stop pretending this isn't a load of f.cking sh.t.

Some people happen to like licking the boot that's stamping on their face.

Who are we to judge them?

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:40 pm**

JQH wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:34 am Arrested for saying "Who elected him?" at the Oxford proclamation

Arrest also made for a rude sign and threatened arrest for possessing a blank one

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:43 pm**

I should say, in principle I agree with these people but they are idiots for staging these protests now, when the country is literally* on a crest of Peak Queen. Give it a few months lads, for Charles to demonstrate himself woefully unequal to Liz. Then people may start listening.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:52 pm**

Pressing criminal charges for peaceful protest is a tad much, even at peak Queen.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:09 pm**

nekomatic wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:43 pm I should say, in principle I agree with these people but they are idiots for staging these protests now, when the country is literally* on a crest of Peak Queen. Give it a few months lads, for Charles to demonstrate himself woefully unequal to Liz. Then people may start listening.

It isn't a protest if everyone agrees with you.

Posted: **Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:10 pm**

Met Police have issued a statement in relation to the viral video of their interaction with a member of the public.

No apology. As someone commented

I can see this being used in mitigation in court - "Your honour, the overwhelming majority of my client's interactions with the public have been positive and not a mugging..."

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:15 am**

Thread on the arrests of protesters: https://twitter.com/wainwright_tom/stat ... Q6nTEbSH2w

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am**

I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:31 am**

bjn wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:52 pm Pressing criminal charges for peaceful protest is a tad much, even at peak Queen.

While most people with republican views wouldn't dream of heading down to express them amongst a crowd of mourners - if the Police heavy-handedly start dragging off the people that do - then people with these views more generally might see it has their duty to start getting more vocal.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:54 am**

Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral

Has it led to fights so far, and is nobody genuinely upset at the reverence the queen is receiving?

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:02 am**

Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral

I'm so angry about what you said that I want to punch you. Therefore you should be arrested.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:04 am**

Woodchopper wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:15 am Thread on the arrests of protesters: https://twitter.com/wainwright_tom/stat ... Q6nTEbSH2w

Brief outline of breach of the peace in Scotland here https://crime.scot/breach-of-the-peace/

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:25 am**

Sciolus wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:50 pm
headshot wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:33 pm My company had two performances cancelled by the National Trust this weekend. It would have meant about £6k in lost revenue there were to cover costs of about £3.5k. Luckily the Trust have said they will cover our losses. But they made the decision unilaterally. I think it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction…
What would be their contractual basis for that? A 96-year-old woman dying is hardly force majeure.

There wasn’t one. The effectively broke contract and accepted they would have to pay the penalty for that.

Their head office took the decision because Charles is their president.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:03 am**

Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral

What's the point in a protest if it doesn't upset someone? Genuine question for the hard of thinking downtrodden proles on the board. I agree the coronation ought to be picketed but I don't understand your logic here.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:42 am**

plodder wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:03 am
Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral
What's the point in a protest if it doesn't upset someone? Genuine question for the hard of thinking downtrodden proles on the board. I agree the coronation ought to be picketed but I don't understand your logic here.

The point of a protest isn’t upsetting people, it’s advancing your cause. Upsetting people happens sometimes, but it shouldn’t be the the aim.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:43 am**

Just received an email from our HR department along the lines of:-

"We have the sad duty of informing you that the Queen has died. As such we have decided to award everyone an extra day's holiday which you can take off on the 19th to remember our wonderful, gracious Queen. Alternatively if you simply don't care that poor old Queenie has died, you can come in and cover for the rest of us, you horrible brute, and have the day off at some other point. I hope it makes up for the terrible, howling void that is clearly your soul."

Needless to say I'm going in, there'll be bugger all on the telly otherwise.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:55 am**

Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:42 am
plodder wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:03 am
Grumble wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:32 am I’m all for abolishing the monarchy, but protesting the mourning with rude signs is going to lead to fights and upset. Protest the coronation, not the funeral
What's the point in a protest if it doesn't upset someone? Genuine question for the hard of thinking downtrodden proles on the board. I agree the coronation ought to be picketed but I don't understand your logic here.
The point of a protest isn’t upsetting people, it’s advancing your cause. Upsetting people happens sometimes, but it shouldn’t be the the aim.

Not the point of a protest ffs, the point *in* a protest.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:05 am**

I'm going to stick up in my window a blank A4 paper.

Will I be arrested?

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