Scrutable

Another test of Sunak's popularity with a by-election in Mid-Beds. Nadine Dorries has now decided that the next general election is not soon enough to resign. She hasn't really given a cogent reason why she is now making them have a by-election when she previously said that would be undesirable. But then cogent explanations were never one of Mad Nad's specialities.

IvanV wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:50 pm Another test of Sunak's popularity with a by-election in Mid-Beds. Nadine Dorries has now decided that the next general election is not soon enough to resign. She hasn't really given a cogent reason why she is now making them have a by-election when she previously said that would be undesirable. But then cogent explanations were never one of Mad Nad's specialities.

Being an ally of Johnson and wanting revenge on the person who betrayed his legacy, and that of his annointed successor (Truss)?

IvanV wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:50 pm Another test of Sunak's popularity with a by-election in Mid-Beds. Nadine Dorries has now decided that the next general election is not soon enough to resign. She hasn't really given a cogent reason why she is now making them have a by-election when she previously said that would be undesirable. But then cogent explanations were never one of Mad Nad's specialities.

Glad tidings of great joy

IvanV wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:50 pm Another test of Sunak's popularity with a by-election in Mid-Beds. Nadine Dorries has now decided that the next general election is not soon enough to resign. She hasn't really given a cogent reason why she is now making them have a by-election when she previously said that would be undesirable. But then cogent explanations were never one of Mad Nad's specialities.

Maybe the committee has passed (at least some of) Boris's Resignation Honours list?

What's going on?! She quits in a sulk but doesn't get Lordified anyway?

Arise Sir Jacob. FFS. I suppose it was always going to happen.

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:39 pm What's going on?! She quits in a sulk but doesn't get Lordified anyway?

Arise Sir Jacob. FFS. I suppose it was always going to happen.

It now looks like a public expression of opinion at not being ennobled, by resigning shortly before we all discover she isn't. It's been widely suggested her hero had promised it her. So did he always intended to shaft her, or even he couldn't in the end stomach ennobling Mad Nad, or did she get weeded out by the integrity review process?

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:39 pm Arise Sir Jacob. FFS.

And Lord Ben Houchen, currently subject to investigation on dodgy dealing with public money. I wonder if that one will end up going the same way as Lord Jeffrey Archole.

someone said Fabricant is getting a knighthood but I can't tell if they're just being silly

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:54 pm someone said Fabricant is getting a knighthood but I can't tell if they're just being silly

Arise Sir Michael! They were right.

Dorries got nothing.

Ha ha, no it turns out the Fabricant thing was just a joke! Pretty funny.

Almost plausible though.

Holy f.ck, Johnson quits.

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:39 pm What's going on?! She quits in a sulk but doesn't get Lordified anyway?

When an MP quits, they become either Steward of the Manor of Northstead (clicky), or Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds (clicky), because they're not allowed to quit, but these appointments make them illegible to be an MP. This caused Gerry Adams a bit of embarrassment, because it's a crown appointment, and he doesn't like crowns very much.

Quitting (or not) might have been her way of getting a title, even if it's only until the next but one MP doesn't quit*.

*ETA: looks like this might be a shorter time than average.

Rats, sinking ships, etc

monkey wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:09 pm When an MP quits, they become either Steward of the Manor of Northstead (clicky), or Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds (clicky), because they're not allowed to quit,

And that's how to run a modern 20th C* constitution!

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:08 pm Ha ha, no it turns out the Fabricant thing was just a joke! Pretty funny.

Almost plausible though.

Michael Fabricant has a knighthood. It's in The Guardian, the newspaper local to his constuency, The Spectator, and numerous other places.

So if it's a joke, which I haven't found any evidence of, a lot of people have fallen for it and failed to correct it.

Even the cabinet office is in on the joke https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nours-2023

Now that bojo has quit can he nominate himself for the Lords?

Turdly wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:30 pm Even the cabinet office is in on the joke https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nours-2023

It would be great if when Fabricant turned up, the 'whatever' office said, "No, the document refers to someone else ... they went to a different school and you don't know them". f.ck, I'd pay to see that!

IvanV wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:21 pm

lpm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:08 pm Ha ha, no it turns out the Fabricant thing was just a joke! Pretty funny.

Almost plausible though.

Michael Fabricant has a knighthood. It's in The Guardian, the newspaper local to his constuency, The Spectator, and numerous other places.

So if it's a joke, which I haven't found any evidence of, a lot of people have fallen for it and failed to correct it.

Occam's razor.

What's more plausible, a joke everyone's in on?

Or Fabricant would get a knighthood?

bl..dy hell. I'd not actually seen the list before, but that run down in the Guardian shows how grubby and self-serving it is in rewarding Johnson helpers and loyalists.

ETA: with Fabricant getting an honour, that Sir Michael Take parody Twitter account is going to have it's work cut out for it trying to satarise the Tories.

bl..dy hell, I go out for the evening and don't look at my phone then wake up to this.

No doubt the nefarious c.nt has plenty of schemes in hand. And Dorries can now devote herself to her literary career.

As Boris was born in America he could now run for President

Johnson needs Sunak to fail badly, and for his own mystique of being a winner to not be tarnished. Both for his ambitions amongst the headbangers in the tory party and for his own ego.

Seems some rumours are saying Nad quit to provide an ultra-safe Tory seat for Alex DePeffl to get back in as his seat at Uxbridge is likely to be a Tory loss at the next election.

ETA: sorry, hadn't got to the other Boris thread !!

If she did, she has zero self respect.

Tessa K wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:43 am As Boris was born in America he could now run for President

Johnson renounced his US citizenship in 2016. He first had to settle his back tax liability, and then his renunciation was accepted.

Having renounced it, he can't just have it back for the asking. So he won't be standing for anything in the US in the near future.