Scrutable

noggins wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:51 am Nah. Trump wins 283:255, see you in the next one and dont be late.

I have never been happier to be wrong .

I would bare my arse in Burton’s winduh but its shut

lpm wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:22 am But apart from all that, what am I to do with my time now this great storyline is over.

i recommend mindless hedonism

noggins wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:22 pm

lpm wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:22 am But apart from all that, what am I to do with my time now this great storyline is over.

i recommend mindless hedonism

Spend time learning how to use smilies.

The next step could be still be very entertaining: forced eviction of the Trump crime syndicate from the WH.

dyqik wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:27 pm

shpalman wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:12 pm There appears to be a venue across the road called The State Room so maybe Trump didn't realize that he was in some industrial estate on the edge of town.

The adult bookshop next door is called Fantasy Island.

What's funny about holding a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping instead of the Four Seasons Hotel?

https://twitter.com/DrSimonAshworth/sta ... 2537866243

Michael Spicer's Four Seasons Ad

ETA - someone on the intewebs has pointed out that as well as being tucked in by a sex shop and a funeral parlour, the road that Four Seasons Total Landscaping is on leads to a prison... such a well crafted metaphor for the Trump administration...

FredM wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:41 pm The next step could be still be very entertaining: forced eviction of the Trump crime syndicate from the WH.

In some ways, I hope they are still trying to cling to power in January. Pathetic and largely defeated, yet enough of a threat to remind people to vote against them in Georgia.

TimW wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:53 pm

dyqik wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:27 pm

shpalman wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:12 pm There appears to be a venue across the road called The State Room so maybe Trump didn't realize that he was in some industrial estate on the edge of town.

The adult bookshop next door is called Fantasy Island.

What's funny about holding a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping instead of the Four Seasons Hotel?

https://twitter.com/DrSimonAshworth/sta ... 2537866243

Thank you for sharing that

jimbob wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:20 pm

TimW wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:53 pm

dyqik wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:27 pm

The adult bookshop next door is called Fantasy Island.

What's funny about holding a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping instead of the Four Seasons Hotel?

https://twitter.com/DrSimonAshworth/sta ... 2537866243

Thank you for sharing that

The US journalist Jimmy Breslin once described pompous prat Rudy Giuliani as "A small man in search of a balcony." Giuliani will henceforth be known as "a small man in search of a shrubbery".

FlammableFlower wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:16 pm Michael Spicer's Four Seasons Ad

ETA - someone on the intewebs has pointed out that as well as being tucked in by a sex shop and a funeral parlour, the road that Four Seasons Total Landscaping is on leads to a prison... such a well crafted metaphor for the Trump administration...

The Delaware Valley Cremation Center is actually across the road from the Four Seasons and it's next to a place called The State Room which actually looks nice. But otherwise it's a light industrial estate.

The great thing about Four Seasons is every possible explanation is implausible. There's no way it could have been chosen deliberately. No way it could have been booked accidentally. The timing of it starting 5 minutes after PA was called is too perfect to be real.

Hoards of tourists visited it yesterday. The owners are going to sell T-shirts.

Oooh...I've got an idea for how to win a runoff election; how about a joint attack on your own party in the state, designed to minimise trust in the entire electoral process?



ETA: It's worth noting that, while Republican, the Secretary of State they are attacking actually ran a very transparent and apparently clean election, and the also Republican Lt. Gov. has spoken to the media saying there was no evidence of irregularity.

lpm wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:59 pm Hoards of tourists visited it yesterday. The owners are going to sell T-shirts.

"My parents visited a luxury executive hotel and all I got was 300 square yards of lousy astroturf".

EACLucifer wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:39 pm Oooh...I've got an idea for how to win a runoff election; how about a joint attack on your own party in the state, designed to minimise trust in the entire electoral process?



ETA: It's worth noting that, while Republican, the Secretary of State they are attacking actually ran a very transparent and apparently clean election, and the also Republican Lt. Gov. has spoken to the media saying there was no evidence of irregularity.

When they say "there have been too many failures", are they perhaps referring to the failure of their long running voter suppression strategies to cope with high rates of postal voting? (The whole thing of making highly-Democrat supporting districts wait in long lines to vote doesn't work so well if people can post them in instead.)

I'm genuinely wondering if McConnell's play in siding with Trumpism is to try and keep the base fired up for Georgia runoffs, and if so, it is stupid; it will fire up the Democrats, too, who just won the state's electors, and will remove the incentive for moderates to aim for divided government for checks and balances.

That said, I genuinely think, from what I've seen, that McConnell promising a senate that will obstruct everything Biden does may not play well with those moderates, given that the thing that causes ratings drops for the senate and house is moments of deadlock, especially on popular policies like COVID relief.

The Secretary of State has responded: https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/13 ... 0735740928

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger wrote:

EACLucifer wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:39 pm Oooh...I've got an idea for how to win a runoff election; how about a joint attack on your own party in the state, designed to minimise trust in the entire electoral process?



ETA: It's worth noting that, while Republican, the Secretary of State they are attacking actually ran a very transparent and apparently clean election, and the also Republican Lt. Gov. has spoken to the media saying there was no evidence of irregularity.

Like many threatening media, it doesn't actually state what the problem was, so how would the SoS rectify it? (if it wasn't dismissed immediately)

Yeah but they'll play it by saying that if Biden has a 50-50 senate, he'll be in thrall to the socialists and communists to get votes through, so they shouldn't elect the dems.

Sorry, for "Biden", read "fake Biden who stole the election"

Interestingly, Trump's just sacked his defence secretary. The guy who was displeased about Trump's use of military forces against BLM protestors earlier this year.

I know he sacks a lot of folks, and we probably shouldn't read too much into it, but I'd love to know what contentious national defence issue they were arguing about in the last few days.

And Bill Barr has ordered prosecutors to investigate the fraud that never happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... SApp_Other

I’m getting quite worried they’ll end up overturning the result even in the absence of evidence.

Vertigowooyay wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:56 am And Bill Barr has ordered prosecutors to investigate the fraud that never happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... SApp_Other

I’m getting quite worried they’ll end up overturning the result even in the absence of evidence.

And they are trying to couch their challenges in terms of the US Constitution (e.g. mail-in votes breach the 14th Amendment, not being allowed to threaten Democratic voters at gun point breaches both First and Second Amendments etc.) in order to force them in front of the SCOTUS with the mafia mindset that their friends in the Supreme Court will be willing to put their loyalty to Don Trump before mere trivialities like basic reality, the rule of law and the entire legal underpinnings of the entire Republic.

SCOTUS watchers assure us that these nonsensical challenges will never get anywhere near the SCOTUS and if they did they would be immediately thrown out. But OTOH you then remember Brett Kavanaugh is an actual thing.

Vertigowooyay wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:56 am And Bill Barr has ordered prosecutors to investigate the fraud that never happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... SApp_Other

I’m getting quite worried they’ll end up overturning the result even in the absence of evidence.

Never going to happen.

How can they begin the process in the courts? Arrive before a judge with no evidence?

lpm wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:49 am

Vertigowooyay wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:56 am And Bill Barr has ordered prosecutors to investigate the fraud that never happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... SApp_Other

I’m getting quite worried they’ll end up overturning the result even in the absence of evidence.

Never going to happen.

How can they begin the process in the courts? Arrive before a judge with no evidence?

I assume there’s no way to appeal against being thrown out before the trial actually starts?