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Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:57 pm
by jimbob
With a previous criminal record
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:57 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
by veravista
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am
by Stranger Mouse
veravista wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:01 am
by dyqik
Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am
veravista wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
Given the threats of more violence tomorrow, that seems sensible.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:20 am
by Stranger Mouse
dyqik wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:01 am
Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am
veravista wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
Given the threats of more violence tomorrow, that seems sensible.
Yup. I think when they started doing the same with Jan 6 protesters it certainly seemed to have a chilling effect on further mass disruption events in the following months
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:01 am
by Stranger Mouse
Tory councillor’s wife arrested for Xitter post
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jll3eg33wo
I wonder if she cried
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:48 am
by Stranger Mouse
I think these are the first sentences to come in. Three years, 20 months and 30 months.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/art ... -far-right
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:03 pm
by Stranger Mouse
This is interesting. YouGov on public reaction to the riots
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/ ... 2024-riots
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:50 pm
by lpm
What a confused poll. I've tried to understand the questions but I've no idea what they mean.
I support the recent peaceful protests in the sense that peaceful protests are part of democracy. But what "recent protests" are they referring to? The protests against the rioters hijacking a tragedy? The protests against far right rioters attacking mosques?
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:07 pm
by Martin Y
It will be interesting to see if the swift flurry of prison sentences being handed out changes those large numbers who thought most perpetrators would probably get away with it.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:37 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Martin Y wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:07 pm
It will be interesting to see if the swift flurry of prison sentences being handed out changes those large numbers who thought most perpetrators would probably get away with it.
I dunno if it will get through their thick skulls
https://x.com/jackfifield/status/182117 ... 95211?s=61
We are currently awaiting for Matthew Wilson to return to court for a contempt hearing after he punched the glass separating the dock from the main court, and shouted ‘fat c.nt’, raising his middle finger in the air when he was refused bail.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:23 pm
by Brightonian
Reception in Brighton (apparently about four fash turned up):
https://x.com/brightonsnapper/status/18 ... 0480815357
Similar in Walthamstow, Bristol, probably other places too
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:44 pm
by jimbob
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm
by Fishnut
Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was
this:
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Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:15 pm
by Rich Scopie
Geordie anti-racist. Surely placard of the day?
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Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:24 pm
by jimbob
Rich Scopie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:15 pm
Geordie anti-racist. Surely placard of the day?
IMG_3796.jpeg
Nice one
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:11 pm
by FlammableFlower
Fishnut wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm
Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was
this:
Screenshot 2024-08-07 at 21.40.52.png
Me too.
Somewhat soured as elsewhere it turns out some pro-palestinians turned up at Airbus to protest at perceived arms involvement with Israel - some employees were attacked and a police officer was hospitalised after he took a sledgehammer blow to his back. This is precisely what the agent provocatuers who stirred up the far right want, more violence to justify their own and escalation.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:29 pm
by Stranger Mouse
bl..dy Hell. Of all the times to use this rhetoric.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz074vyvjzvo
Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been arrested on suspicion of encouraging murder after comments at a London counter-protest.
Videos had emerged online reportedly showing Mr Jones telling a crowd in Walthamstow that far right demonstrators needed to have their throats cut.
What the f.ck was he thinking?
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:48 pm
by Stranger Mouse
This is one I’ve been waiting for
https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/08/woman-fi ... -21389346/
The woman accused of being first to spread the fake rumours about the Southport killer which sparked nationwide riots has been arrested.
Racist riots spread across the country after misinformation spread on social media claiming the fatal stabbing was carried out by Ali Al-Shakati, believed to be a fictitious name, a Muslim aslyum seeker who was on an MI6 watchlist.
Apropos of nothing
The businesswoman, who lives in a £1.5million farmhouse in Cheshire, told MailOnline she ‘first received this information from somebody in Southport’.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm
by FlammableFlower
Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.
Now that may turn out to be bobbins...
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:04 pm
by bob sterman
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y38gjp4ygo
Ms Spofforth had previously shared posts raising questions about lockdown and net-zero climate change measures. However, her profile was temporarily removed by Twitter back in 2021 following allegations she was promoting misinformation about the Covid-19 vaccine and the pandemic. She disputed the claims and said she believed Covid is real.
Since Mr Musk’s takeover, her posts have received more than a million views fairly regularly.
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:07 pm
by jimbob
FlammableFlower wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm
Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.
Now that may turn out to be bobbins...
If it is her, I'll be happy, given how disingenuous she has been since Covid
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:25 pm
by Stranger Mouse
jimbob wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:07 pm
FlammableFlower wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm
Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.
Now that may turn out to be bobbins...
If it is her, I'll be happy, given how disingenuous she has been since Covid
It will be interesting to see whether an investigation exposes whether she was told the false immigrant murder story by someone (she’s told several contradictory stories) or whether there is a more sinister explanation
Re: Southport attack and riots
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:45 pm
by Boustrophedon
Fishnut wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm
Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was
this:
Screenshot 2024-08-07 at 21.40.52.png
I can't help but feel that if the English were a little less uptight about doing this all the time then there would be less intolerance.