Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:51 pm
a..eholes like Trump always live to a ripe old age.
The Dick Cheney effect, as it's known in the trade.
The Dick Cheney effect, as it's known in the trade.
Although not a reflection on the presidential vote, didn't a dead bloke recently get elected to a post somewhere in the US? (Well, in the last 12 months). Presumably due to similar grounds as you've laid out.El Pollo Diablo wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:06 pm Essentially, f.ck knows. If it's before the election but after a certain point, then some states won't allow the ballot to be changed even if one of the candidates is dead. The Dems or reps can replace the candidate through official procedures but it doesn't mean the ballots change. The ballots then cast may be for the party, or a dead candidate, and the supreme Court would likely have a very messy mess on their hands. On top of that as well, the electors might be subject to state laws which say they have to cast their vote for the dead candidate if they won the election in the state, even if they're disqualified from the presidency by being, you know, not alive. However, those laws themselves might be unconstitutional, and the electors might ultimately be able to cast a vote for whoever they want.
Or possibly so that senior execs don't end up doing jail time for contempt of court?lpm wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 2:45 pm I'd guess Deutsche would promptly obey the courts, just to get rid of their burden.
He will suffer an unfortunate accident in the next few months.lpm wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:29 pm General Mattis finally speaks out!
And why couldn't have done this a few months ago?
The "devil takes care of his own" rule.
Robespierre did end on the guillotine.Herainestold wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:08 pm There is no cosmic justice, despite what we might wish.
So did Lavoisierbmforre wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:35 pmRobespierre did end on the guillotine.Herainestold wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:08 pm There is no cosmic justice, despite what we might wish.
If it only affected your thumb, you've no reason to be carping,Bird on a Fire wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:11 pm I cut my thumb on a guillotine at work once. Blood everywhere.
I got better.
Let that be a warning to us all.Fishnut wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:38 pmSo did Lavoisierbmforre wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:35 pmRobespierre did end on the guillotine.Herainestold wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:08 pm There is no cosmic justice, despite what we might wish.
John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser, says in his new book that the House in its impeachment inquiry should have investigated President Trump not just for pressuring Ukraine to incriminate his domestic foes but for a variety of instances when he sought to intervene in law enforcement matters for political reasons.
Mr. Bolton describes several episodes where the president expressed willingness to halt criminal investigations “to, in effect, give personal favors to dictators he liked,” citing cases involving major firms in China and Turkey. “The pattern looked like obstruction of justice as a way of life, which we couldn’t accept,” Mr. Bolton writes, adding that he reported his concerns to Attorney General William P. Barr.
Mr. Bolton also adds a striking new allegation by saying that Mr. Trump overtly linked trade negotiations to his own political fortunes by asking President Xi Jinping of China to buy a lot of American agricultural products to help him win farm states in this year’s election. Mr. Trump, he writes, was “pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win. He stressed the importance of farmers, and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome.”
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It is a withering portrait of a president ignorant of even basic facts about the world, susceptible to transparent flattery by authoritarian leaders manipulating him and prone to false statements, foul-mouthed eruptions and snap decisions that aides try to manage or reverse.
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The book confirms House testimony that Mr. Bolton was wary all along of the president’s actions with regard to Ukraine and that Mr. Trump explicitly linked the security aid to investigations involving Mr. Biden and Hillary Clinton. On Aug. 20, Mr. Bolton writes, Mr. Trump “said he wasn’t in favor of sending them anything until all the Russia-investigation materials related to Clinton and Biden had been turned over.” Mr. Bolton writes that he, Mr. Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper tried eight to 10 times to get Mr. Trump to release the aid.
Mr. Bolton, however, had nothing but scorn for the House Democrats who impeached Mr. Trump, saying they committed “impeachment malpractice” by limiting their inquiry to the Ukraine matter and moving too quickly for their own political reasons. Instead, he said they should have also looked at how Mr. Trump was willing to intervene in investigations into companies like Turkey’s Halkbank to curry favor with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey or China’s ZTE to favor Mr. Xi.
Mr. Bolton does not say these are necessarily impeachable offenses and adds that he does not know everything that happened with regard to those episodes but he reported them to Mr. Barr and Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel. They should have been investigated by the House, he said, and at the very least suggested abuses of a president’s duty to put the nation’s interests ahead of his own.
In June 2019, Xi "explained to Trump why he was basically building concentration camps in Xinjiang. ... Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do.
Bolton said the main goal of Trump's bizarre missive defending MBS on Khashoggi was to distract from Ivanka using personal email for gov't business.
“This will divert from Ivanka,” Trump said.
I think because he's always been acting out of self-interest rather than public interest.bjn wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:57 pm It is good that the dirty details are coming out, but why the f.ck didn’t he testify all that rather than save it up for a book deal?