Scrutable

I'll get my green card and head off to set up the beginnings of a commune - maybe somewhere like northern New England. Close enough to the Canadian border to allow an escape if by some mishap, Trump gets re-elected
I think there are some here who are already near that neck of the woods, who ma care to help

I have my fingers crossed for you, UK chums, but I fear the worst.

Looking pretty much cut and dried now, but it is currently a tad more than 32 h before His Great Curticeness makes it plain.

And can we have a sweepstake for the first time Momentum say that losing by X% less than predicted is a fantastic victory that shows the people are ready for true socialism?

one more push, comrades. One more push.

Gentleman Jim wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:15 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:13 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:10 pm if we all save up our money, can we start a commune?

I haven't got any money, and in any case I think tradition dictates that we should expropriate it from some rich c.nts.

Nah. We just all move in with Opti

Funnily enough, Opti has just bagged himself an almost front row on the beach house for the next year at mate's rates. 3 bed, 2 bath, 2 terraces. Room in the garden for the odd tent.

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:18 pm Hallucinogens and orgies are the only way we'll get through the next five years

And swords!

Ah well, I guess if any leader hid in a fridge, it would be almost as big news as eating a bacon sandwich

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:18 pm Hallucinogens and orgies are the only way we'll get through the next five years

I was hoping for that no matter what the outcome.
Didn't even realise there was an election

They should've put something on the news or summat...

Opti wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:50 pm ... Room in the garden for the odd tent.

Now I'm trying to imagine the odd tent. I have a mental image of a very odd tent indeed, with a sort of Womad-on-sea vibe.

Only 24 h 28 mins until The Pronouncement form His Greatness The Curtice.

22:00: Exit poll
22.01: Bedtime
2024: Alarm goes off.

I might be in it for the night, or at least until I get bored/fall asleep. I've got Friday off anyway.

GeenDienst wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:34 pm Only 24 h 28 mins until The Pronouncement form His Greatness The Curtice.

22:00: Exit poll
22.01: Bedtime
2024: Alarm goes off.

Laura K will probably announce the results at about 10am tomorrow, if today is anything to go by.

GeenDienst wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:34 pm Only 24 h 28 mins until The Pronouncement form His Greatness The Curtice.

22:00: Exit poll
22.01: Bedtime
2024: Alarm goes off.

I suppose it will be novel that the traditional “how quickly can the mackems weigh their Labour votes” spectacle will actually matter this year.

Doing the rounds

Both of my f.cking aunts are voting "for Boris", as they put it.

I f.cking despair.

At least I'm only in the UK over the festive period, during which day-drinking is not only acceptable but encouraged.

Little waster wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:31 pm
The Tory candidate has an address 300 miles away Shirley you'd think they could find someone a bit more local willing to stand in as a paper candidate?

I think only one of the candidates in Bradford West lives in the constituency. Shipley, Skipton, and Pendle addresses for Brexit, Lib Dems, and Tories. We also have an Independent who gave an address in Pakistan. Not very strong on geography but that's probably even further away than your Tory lives.

So, today it ends.

All hope, that is.



Today is the death of hope.

Also would've been my dad's 75th birthday. But thankfully he's not around to see.

The year I became a Posadist.

secret squirrel wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:51 am The year I became a Posadist.

So that's another vote for the Space Navy Lady then, this election is in the bag!

Go back to your own planets and prepare for Intergalactic Government, you heard it here first.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:00 am Both of my f.cking aunts are voting "for Boris", as they,
put it.

I f.cking despair.

At least I'm only in the UK over the festive period, during which day-drinking is not only acceptable but encouraged.

Yes when Eurosceptic Peter frikkin Oborne says that Corbyn is less damaging than Johnson

It's bad
https://twitter.com/OborneTweets/status ... 89152?s=20

I voted at 7:05. The pipettes were very uncomfortable at first, getting used to them now.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:00 am Both of my f.cking aunts are voting "for Boris", as they put it.

I f.cking despair.

At least I'm only in the UK over the festive period, during which day-drinking is not only acceptable but encouraged.

My sister (not born in the UK) and her husband have both become Tory-supporting Brexiters. She shared that "very interesting, a friend of mine is a tory-supporting spam bot who denies that fully-verified news story" post on facebook about the child on the floor of the hospital; he's just started chemotherapy for cancer found in his throat, so he's lucky that the health service hasn't yet been totally trashed yet.

So no I'm not really looking forward to being in the UK over the festive period either.

(she also shared a "when you buy from a small business..." post; when you buy from their small business you're helping them get an even bigger Jaguar next time while making sure you keep getting cold called about having your oven cleaned.)

jimbob wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:37 pm Ah well, I guess if any leader hid in a fridge, it would be almost as big news as eating a bacon sandwich

Or stealing someone's phone...

It's almost like there is some class of bias going on, but that couldn't possibly be the case could it? Not the Good Old British Press...

In other news John McDonnell sneezed in a totally Un-British Way, indicating his true nature as a Russian sleeper agent or something.

Labour's predicament seems bigly down to the myth of the 2017 "victory". You see it everywhere. Before the elction was called Momentum emailed their members (reported here) to say...

In late October, as Labour prevaricated over whether to support an early general election, Momentum was unambiguous. “We say: bring it on,” declared an email to the group’s 40,000 members (an increase of 16,000 since the last election). “Our movement is stronger than ever. We defied all expectations at the last election. If tens of thousands of us step up and give it everything we’ve got — we can win.”

There's never any acknowledgment at all of the slow motion car crash the other side put before us on 2017. It's like they actually believe that once their bright-eyed cadres are on the streets, the people will flock to the red banner. This is the only explanation I can think of why Corbyn called this election when way behind in the polls, reportedly over the objections of his shadow cabinet, and when the Johnson government was trapped and floundering. Absolutely everybody but them could see what was going to happen. And if Labour lose by one tenth of one percent less than predicted in the polls, we'll see it again.

Back in the '80s, the Bennites always used to say that labour kept losing because people have never had the opportunity to embrace real socialism. I guess we find out how that went in about 12 hours.