Scrutable

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:53 pm Patel still being a c.nt
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 197f3f9b18

Iron Magpie wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:44 pm

Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:43 am

Iron Magpie wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:19 am There have been 2056 nuclear bombs detonated (in tests not sure if it includes the two in anger). I imagine that each one was probably filmed*. I think that qualifies as "many".

*probably from more than one angle/camera....

Quite a few of those were underground, though I don’t know the proportion.

528 were atmospheric, not including the two in anger. That is still many.
Info from here....
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally

individualmember wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:37 pm

Iron Magpie wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:44 pm

Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:43 am

Quite a few of those were underground, though I don’t know the proportion.

528 were atmospheric, not including the two in anger. That is still many.
Info from here....
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally

On a massive tangent, regarding early nuclear tests: a couple of weeks ago I was handed an envelope and asked “is there any need to keep this?” What it is is a transcript of an acquaintance of my parents’ testimony to a Royal Commission in Australia in 1985 about his experience in the pacific around 1952, being in radioactive areas 15 times over a few months. I guess that a Royal Commission must be on record somewhere, available to academic research (?), but I’d be delighted to share it if anyone knows of someone or some organisation that would want it.

Gfamily wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:13 pm

individualmember wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:37 pm On a massive tangent, regarding early nuclear tests: a couple of weeks ago I was handed an envelope and asked “is there any need to keep this?” What it is is a transcript of an acquaintance of my parents’ testimony to a Royal Commission in Australia in 1985 about his experience in the pacific around 1952, being in radioactive areas 15 times over a few months. I guess that a Royal Commission must be on record somewhere, available to academic research (?), but I’d be delighted to share it if anyone knows of someone or some organisation that would want it.

I don't know if you're interested in the outcome, but the final report is available here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClellan ... Commission

Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:02 pm The Russian guy at the United Nations is gaslighting right now at a level even greater than previous Russian statements. He’s gone full “see what you made us do”

In other news Switzerland is joining in sanctions

Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:04 am Putin’s forces have given up on the pretence of civilian targets being hit by accident. https://twitter.com/rolandoliphant/stat ... 61794?s=21

EACLucifer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:17 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:04 am Putin’s forces have given up on the pretence of civilian targets being hit by accident. https://twitter.com/rolandoliphant/stat ... 61794?s=21

Iskander missile, most likely, massive and inaccurate. Absolutely indefensible to use it on the middle of a city. Indefensible to use it on anything other than a military target well away from anything*, given it's accuracy - footage shows that several of them fired at an airbase failed to get a single hit on the runway, for example.

ETA: It may well have been an attempt to kill local government officials


*The whole war's indefensible, of course.

Here's a report I pulled today - tweets with the hashtag "myocarditis" stopped for 30+ hours. Tweets with the hashtag "covid19vaccine" stopped happening for even longer than that.

A bunch of antivax and generally disruptive hashtags are showing odd trends right now.

Russia is trying to keep word of how badly the war is going from reaching their people, so they're limiting access to Facebook and Twitter.

What trolls and bots they do have are now spreading disinformation about the war.

jimbob wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:18 pm Tying this to Covid and bot farms.

https://twitter.com/klharlow/status/149 ... 0jKVp9AL9A

Here's a report I pulled today - tweets with the hashtag "myocarditis" stopped for 30+ hours. Tweets with the hashtag "covid19vaccine" stopped happening for even longer than that.

A bunch of antivax and generally disruptive hashtags are showing odd trends right now.

With a very interesting graph, and part of a thread.


From earlier in it.

Russia is trying to keep word of how badly the war is going from reaching their people, so they're limiting access to Facebook and Twitter.

What trolls and bots they do have are now spreading disinformation about the war.

Stephanie wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:42 pm

jimbob wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:18 pm Tying this to Covid and bot farms.

https://twitter.com/klharlow/status/149 ... 0jKVp9AL9A

Here's a report I pulled today - tweets with the hashtag "myocarditis" stopped for 30+ hours. Tweets with the hashtag "covid19vaccine" stopped happening for even longer than that.

A bunch of antivax and generally disruptive hashtags are showing odd trends right now.

With a very interesting graph, and part of a thread.


From earlier in it.

Russia is trying to keep word of how badly the war is going from reaching their people, so they're limiting access to Facebook and Twitter.

What trolls and bots they do have are now spreading disinformation about the war.

Tweets here disagree with the analysis https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status ... 8297840653

jimbob wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:55 pm

Stephanie wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:42 pm

jimbob wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:18 pm Tying this to Covid and bot farms.

https://twitter.com/klharlow/status/149 ... 0jKVp9AL9A




With a very interesting graph, and part of a thread.


From earlier in it.

Tweets here disagree with the analysis https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status ... 8297840653

So I see.

But Hoaxy shows this effect when looking for #FreedomConvoy, for example.
https://hoaxy.osome.iu.edu/#query=%23fr ... tter&lang=


@conspirator0 said that hoaxy is limited so often doesn't catch things. They are far more expert than me in this, though

But even it is, the flatline indicates some abnormal behaviour.

https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status ... mfW15LHN5w

monkey wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:11 pm The map doesn't look that different to what you might see in the guardian or summat to me (and I'm not a military expert by any stretch). The arrows are bigger, but seem to be pointing the same directions. Has this really revealed anything?

EACLucifer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:17 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:04 am Putin’s forces have given up on the pretence of civilian targets being hit by accident. https://twitter.com/rolandoliphant/stat ... 61794?s=21

Iskander missile, most likely, massive and inaccurate. Absolutely indefensible to use it on the middle of a city. Indefensible to use it on anything other than a military target well away from anything*, given it's accuracy - footage shows that several of them fired at an airbase failed to get a single hit on the runway, for example.


*The whole war's indefensible, of course.

EACLucifer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:57 pm

EACLucifer wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:17 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:04 am Putin’s forces have given up on the pretence of civilian targets being hit by accident. https://twitter.com/rolandoliphant/stat ... 61794?s=21

Iskander missile, most likely, massive and inaccurate. Absolutely indefensible to use it on the middle of a city. Indefensible to use it on anything other than a military target well away from anything*, given it's accuracy - footage shows that several of them fired at an airbase failed to get a single hit on the runway, for example.


*The whole war's indefensible, of course.

Those who know a lot more about it than me say it was a Kalibr missile, not an Iskander. Rest of post remains accurate.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:53 pm Not going well for Russia economically - so many Western companies are exiting their investments there (including big-hitters like BP and Shell) that they've had to ban them taking their money out. I assume that in turn can have knock-on consequences.

I assume they're just selling those investments to people in less scrupulous jurisdictions, and that in isolation they're unlikely to have much impact on Russia's fossil fuel exports. But it sounds like there's sufficient economic worry to prompt action.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-b ... 807485.htm

jimbob wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:11 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:53 pm Not going well for Russia economically - so many Western companies are exiting their investments there (including big-hitters like BP and Shell) that they've had to ban them taking their money out. I assume that in turn can have knock-on consequences.

I assume they're just selling those investments to people in less scrupulous jurisdictions, and that in isolation they're unlikely to have much impact on Russia's fossil fuel exports. But it sounds like there's sufficient economic worry to prompt action.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-b ... 807485.htm

It highlights Putin's miscalculation and that means those around him might think a coup is a good idea.