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Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:14 pm
by sheldrake
plodder wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:15 am If you want to be wrong about HS2 there's a separate thread for that.
I'm sure there are good lengthy debates to be had (and have already been had) about the environmental benefits and drawbacks, but it *is* costing a lot and a lot of the same people who would like better elder care are also not fans of HS2.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:50 pm
by El Pollo Diablo
It certainly is costing a lot, in total, across all phases, when delivered in full, over the next 15ish years, but when annualised the remaining (capital) cost is less than the annual variation in the (operational) budget of the NHS. It wouldn't really make much of a difference.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:51 pm
by sheldrake
Would you agree that, in principle, there may be areas outside of the NHS and the social welfare safety net where cuts could be made in order to increase funding in those places?

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:32 pm
by lpm
"It's nice to be home," said Sheldrake. "Return to what I'm used to. Funny, no matter how long you're gone the old folks back home won't have changed."

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:42 pm
by sheldrake
I see that some still believe that it's economically irrelevant what money is spent on as long as it's circulating, yes.

How have you been, LPM?

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:07 pm
by lpm
I've been right. Constantly right. I'm getting bored of how right I always am. Like I said, nothing has changed.

See Covid threads for more details.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:44 pm
by plodder
I’m the sort of person who chats to the skanky tramp, makes them the odd cup of tea, and worries when I don’t see them for a while. I am relieved to see Sheldrake safe and sound, although I am worried they appear to have joined the Brexit branch of the liberal democrats.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:42 pm
by sheldrake
We call it the John Cleese society.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:03 am
by JQH
To be fair to sheldrake, he has come round to the idea that MegaCorps and billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes ie a percentage not less than that paid by the proles.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:21 am
by Woodchopper

I've just moved a post over to the pit.

Please could people try to be civil in this forum.

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:50 am
by Martin_B
Woodchopper wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:21 am I've just moved a post over to the pit.

Please could people try to be civil in this forum.
To quote Pterry: Misbegotten wretch so you are!

Re: I support Boris Johnson's tax increase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:59 am
by sheldrake
JQH wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:03 am To be fair to sheldrake, he has come round to the idea that MegaCorps and billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes ie a percentage not less than that paid by the proles.
I always thought that, I used to just think the way to achieve it was to massively drop the proles' taxes.