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Troubled Joe wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:19 pm

plodder wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:01 pm And in all seriousness - there is clearly an argument to be made that continuing the monarchy under Charles would be a disaster, in terms of our governance as a country, our international standing, and the habit he has developed over the year of interfering behind the scenes to his own advantage. He's going to be a dreadful head of state, far worse than someone like Trump because he has the job for life.

There is, as far as I understand it, no legal mechanism (short of something pretty close to a revolution) that would allow the forced dissolution of the monarchy - church and state and the monarchy are so intertwined and invested in by the status quo that it would likely result in significant bloodshed, and the Monarch could simply refuse to pass any legislation in any case.

So how else can we stop the c.nt?

I suspect and/or hope when/if he becomes the big cheese it will hasten the end of the monarchy in its present form as given his elevated position he would not be able to interfere unseen anything like as easily. He’s unlikely to stop and hopefully people won’t like what they see.

Stranger Mouse wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:01 pm Must say I’m quite fond of Queenie.

TopBadger wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:01 pm Must say I’m quite fond of Queenie.

I thought Queenie was great too, but then she just stopped posting and I'm not sure why... the old place wasn't the same without her...

Oh, you meant the actual Queen! Yeah, I'm in no rush to replace her maj.

Tessa K wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)

dyqik wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Tessa K wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)

No, because he'd bring far too much gravity to what is a ridiculous position.

dyqik wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Tessa K wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)

No, because he'd bring far too much gravity to what is a ridiculous position.

Tessa K wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.

IvanV wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:04 pm ... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.

Martin Y wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:05 pm

IvanV wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:04 pm ... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.

It was Elizabeth who was succeeded by a king of Scotland; James VI, who became James I. Charles II was succeeded by his brother James II.
But yes, the track record of Charles's is not terrific.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am

Tessa K wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.

This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.

nezumi wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am

Tessa K wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.

This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.

It truly is the end of days.

dyqik wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm

nezumi wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am

This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.

It truly is the end of days.

Surely you can never be sure that it isn't Rory Bremner on the radio?

nezumi wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:48 pm

dyqik wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm

nezumi wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm

It truly is the end of days.

Surely you can never be sure that it isn't Rory Bremner on the radio?

You can never be sure Rory Bremner isn't impersonating your closest relatives.

Cardinal Fang wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:30 pm

Martin Y wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:05 pm

IvanV wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:04 pm ... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.

It was Elizabeth who was succeeded by a king of Scotland; James VI, who became James I. Charles II was succeeded by his brother James II.
But yes, the track record of Charles's is not terrific.

Weird factoid. Because the UK monarch is now the ruler of both England and Scotland, were there to be another King James, they wouldn't be James III, they would be James VIII, because they would have to take into account the James's in the Scottish line (James VII is who we know as James II)

CF

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:01 am Crect. And Robert IV, David III, etc. It's a shame the monarchs have been trapped in an Edward/William/George cycle for so long. It'd be good to see some other names come in.

Tessa K wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:56 am Or we could copy the ninth century king of West Francia and go for Charles the Bald.

Or we could copy the ninth century king of West Francia and go for Charles the Bald.