Scrutable

Truss didn't even turn up for Labour's Urgent Question in the commons...or for the Chancellor's commons statment.

I'm not sure I even give her until Friday..

Liz Truss bunks off for the questions and sends Morduant out.

The response from a lot of commentators seems to be "Hey, she's doing alright at this."

Ooops.

monkey wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:08 pm Liz Truss bunks off for the questions and sends Morduant out.

The response from a lot of commentators seems to be "Hey, she's doing alright at this."

Ooops.

Morduant may be wrong about most things, but she's not a deluded f.ckwit high on the IEA supply is she?

It is entertaining just to remind ourselves of some of the classic short terms of power executive leaders have had in other places. Argentina soon comes to mind.

Argentina had a terrible economic crisis around 20 years ago. The electorate were very unhappy with how things were going, and took to rioting. The president, Fernando de la Rúa, eventually resigned. Like the USA, they have an executive president. The senate must immediately elect a replacement. But the mob were several times unsatisfied with the new president, when he came out and said what he was going to do. Over the course of just 13 days, including Christmas and New Year, they had 5 presidents.

Fernando de la Rúa resigned on 21 Dec 2001
Ramón Puerta resigned on 23 Dec 2001.
Adolfo Rodríguez Saá resigned on 30 December 2001.
Eduardo Camaño resigned on 2 Jan 2002.
Eduardo Duhalde's term began on 2 Jan 2002.

Challenge accepted.

IvanV wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:42 pm

plodder wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:51 pm Haha honestly it’s f.cking bonkers. Will the 1922 change the rules to boot her out?

Maybe they don't need to. We don't know what the Conservative Party's rules say about when they can first have a vote of confidence in new leader. We've never been told, and the rules are not in the public domain.

We have been told, it's been reported fairly widely that no challenge can, under the current rules, be made in the first 12 months.

Those rules can change, however.

bjn wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:11 pm

monkey wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:08 pm Liz Truss bunks off for the questions and sends Morduant out.

The response from a lot of commentators seems to be "Hey, she's doing alright at this."

Ooops.

Morduant may be wrong about most things, but she's not a deluded f.ckwit high on the IEA supply is she?

Not sure, but I bet she can stay at home and not do anything without getting it wrong though.

This is so bizarre.

She failed to show up to face Starmer. Then crept in but kept silent for Hunt's speech. Then scuttled out.

I can only think she's resigning. She can't recover from hiding under her desk.

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:59 pm This is so bizarre.

She failed to show up to face Starmer. Then crept in but kept silent for Hunt's speech. Then scuttled out.

I can only think she's resigning. She can't recover from hiding under her desk.

Tonight then? She won't face PMQs surely. Maybe the important meeting that kept her away from the statement was with Charles the Turd?

Meeting with Graham Brady?

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:14 pm Meeting with Graham Brady?

I saw a tweet saying that Brady left the commons during Morduant's bit, so it could've happened, but I don't think there would've been long enough for a proper meeting before she turned up, if I remember the times correctly. Could've been a quick, "Time for you to do the honourable thing", I suppose.

But I reckon she had already been told to resign when Hunt was was appointed, but they feel the resignation has to be managed in order to fix the damage and get all the ducks in row for a quick hand over to whoever's been picked next for the job.


ETA: TRY to fix the damage...

Oh, here you go: clicky

Pippa Crear says

NEW: Liz Truss was with Sir Graham Brady during Labour's urgent question in HoC - as per No 10 sources.

They tell me it was a pre-planned meeting - rather than crisis talks - but inevitable that lack of support among Tory MPs will have come up.

This thread needed a title change.

plodder wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:08 pm

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:59 pm This is so bizarre.

She failed to show up to face Starmer. Then crept in but kept silent for Hunt's speech. Then scuttled out.

I can only think she's resigning. She can't recover from hiding under her desk.

Tonight then? She won't face PMQs surely. Maybe the important meeting that kept her away from the statement was with Charles the Turd?

He was in Aberdeen earlier, which would have made that quite a trek.

Maybe she's waiting for him to get back to the Palace.

Didn't want to spook markets with a resignation this morning? So did all the calming Hunt stuff first.

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:15 pm Didn't want to spook markets with a resignation this morning? So did all the calming Hunt stuff first.

Yeah. They're turning the Government on and off again.

Ministers will start resigning after PMQs. She resigns the next day. Quick ballot of MPs, runner up quits rather than going to the membership, new PM sometime next week. Then we wait for all this to blow over. How's that for a slice of fried gold?

That's what I reckon, anyway.

https://twitter.com/PaulSudbury1/status ... 0460321792

Dunno if this video has been doctored. There's a lot of fakes like this about. If not...

monkey wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:41 pm But I reckon she had already been told to resign when Hunt was was appointed, but they feel the resignation has to be managed in order to fix the damage and get all the ducks in row for a quick hand over to whoever's been picked next for the job.


ETA: TRY to fix the damage...

Yeah, they can't afford another competition, partly because the delay and uncertainty will cause further market chaos, and partly because they need a party unity candidate not a divisive leader (Hunt is chancellor in large part because he dropped out so early in the previous election campaign).

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:54 pm https://twitter.com/PaulSudbury1/status ... 0460321792

Dunno if this video has been doctored. There's a lot of fakes like this about. If not...

A five second video tells you nothing about her sobriety.

This isn't needed to make her look bad, she's doing a pretty good job of that all by herself.

plodder wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:19 pm She's going to have to resign, she's being completely humiliated. Although if the day collar stories are true perhaps that's what's keeping her going.

eta potentially nsfw if you are about to hit google

1) The day collar stories originated as a rumour among people absolutely obsessed with, but not particularly involved with, that sort of thing. They are very unlikely to be true.

2) Who gives a sh.t if they are? That's not what's wrong with Truss.

EACLucifer wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:35 pm

plodder wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:19 pm She's going to have to resign, she's being completely humiliated. Although if the day collar stories are true perhaps that's what's keeping her going.

eta potentially nsfw if you are about to hit google

1) The day collar stories originated as a rumour among people absolutely obsessed with, but not particularly involved with, that sort of thing. They are very unlikely to be true.

2) Who gives a sh.t if they are? That's not what's wrong with Truss.

1) who gives a sh.t etc
2) it's a joke you stuffed plum

Lol.

If a journalist asks "Are you going to be PM by the next election?" the answer is more than likely "No".

There's a reason why they're asking you that.

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:15 pm calming Hunt

Spoonerism alert!

headshot wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:04 pm

lpm wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:15 pm calming Hunt

Spoonerism alert!

Lol