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Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:36 am
by bjn
Musk showing who he relies on for an ‘unbiased’ source information…

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:40 pm
by Grumble
Just been on Xitter. Was reading a Democracy Docket tweet about gerrymandering and about three replies down it was all photos of improbably proportioned young women. I mean, it’s a pretty dry subject to start bombarding with escort ads or whatever they were.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:11 am
by dyqik
Grumble wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:40 pm Just been on Xitter. Was reading a Democracy Docket tweet about gerrymandering and about three replies down it was all photos of improbably proportioned young women. I mean, it’s a pretty dry subject to start bombarding with escort ads or whatever they were.
Phishing scams, blackmail gathering attempts and attempts to set up advance fee fraud is mostly what they are.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:09 pm
by temptar
Elon has picked a fight with Thierry Breton. This could be popcorn worthy….

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:37 am
by Woodchopper
temptar wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:09 pm Elon has picked a fight with Thierry Breton. This could be popcorn worthy….
This is not a fight that Musk can win.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:23 am
by dyqik
Particularly when coupled with NPR's experiment of stopping Twitter promotion, which has had miniscule effect:

https://indieweb.social/@tchambers/111219082248580986

https://niemanreports.org/articles/npr-twitter-musk/

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:26 pm
by Martin Y
Yaxley-Lennon and Hopkins reinstated, because hate speech is the new small talk.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67331288

As Wilde said, there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's being talked about by Katie Hopkins.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:22 am
by Woodchopper
The European Commission has opened formal proceedings to assess whether X may have breached the Digital Services Act (DSA) in areas linked to risk management, content moderation, dark patterns, advertising transparency and data access for researchers.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco ... IP_23_6709

Much more at the link.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:29 pm
by Woodchopper
Fidelity has again marked down the value of its shares in X Holdings, which the mutual fund giant helped Elon Musk buy for $44 billion when the company was known as Twitter.

By the numbers: Fidelity believes that X is worth 71.5% less than at the time of purchase, according to a new disclosure that runs through the end of November 2023 (Fidelity revalues private shares on a one-month lag).

This includes a 10.7% cut during November, during which time Musk told boycotting X advertisers to "go f**k yourself" during an on-stage interview with the New York Times.

In terms of publicly traded comps, Meta stock rose 4.9% in November while Snap shares climbed 38.2%.
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/31/elon-m ... uation-cut

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:26 am
by Woodchopper
Woodchopper wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:29 pm
Fidelity has again marked down the value of its shares in X Holdings, which the mutual fund giant helped Elon Musk buy for $44 billion when the company was known as Twitter.

By the numbers: Fidelity believes that X is worth 71.5% less than at the time of purchase, according to a new disclosure that runs through the end of November 2023 (Fidelity revalues private shares on a one-month lag).

This includes a 10.7% cut during November, during which time Musk told boycotting X advertisers to "go f**k yourself" during an on-stage interview with the New York Times.

In terms of publicly traded comps, Meta stock rose 4.9% in November while Snap shares climbed 38.2%.
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/31/elon-m ... uation-cut
And they continue to down write the value of the company: https://fortune.com/2024/03/30/fidelity ... -takeover/

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:00 pm
by IvanV
There's been a correspondence in the Economist criticising their repeated use of the phrase "X formerly known as Twitter". The first letter, paraphrased, roughly went "Grow up." A follow-up calculated how many pointless words they had printed, by failing to use a one word name, but did not say which one-word name that correspondent preferred. Another preferred "X which everyone except its narcissistic owner calls Twitter".

The BBC still calls it "X formerly known as Twitter".

Despite haemorrhaging users, Xwitter still has 1000 times more than Truth Social. Xwitter has lost a lot of money for Musk, but unfortunately, despite its dire business position - costs 10 times income in a recent SEC filing - Truth Social could well make a lot of money for Trump, according to the analysis in this LegalEagle analysis (youtube 20 mins), which also exposes a remarkable amount of legal shenanigans. (This one is presented by Liz Dye who is actually rather better than the usual LE presenter.)

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 11:38 am
by Grumble
I was under the impression that my “following” tab was meant to be people that I was following. Today I found a tweet from Tommy Robinson on there, who I don’t mind telling you I don’t follow. I try to keep off the “for you” tab because that’s bound to be sh.t but I hoped I was ok on “following”.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 1:07 pm
by Woodchopper
Grumble wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:38 am I was under the impression that my “following” tab was meant to be people that I was following. Today I found a tweet from Tommy Robinson on there, who I don’t mind telling you I don’t follow. I try to keep off the “for you” tab because that’s bound to be sh.t but I hoped I was ok on “following”.
I think the ‘following’ tab also includes retweets from people you follow, and perhaps their likes.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 1:59 pm
by Grumble
Woodchopper wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 1:07 pm
Grumble wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 11:38 am I was under the impression that my “following” tab was meant to be people that I was following. Today I found a tweet from Tommy Robinson on there, who I don’t mind telling you I don’t follow. I try to keep off the “for you” tab because that’s bound to be sh.t but I hoped I was ok on “following”.
I think the ‘following’ tab also includes retweets from people you follow, and perhaps their likes.
It wasn’t a retweet. I may have been on For You by mistake. I hope so anyway.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 2:12 pm
by jimbob
I think he sometimes pays for adverts,

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:07 pm
by Grumble
How about no?

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:04 pm
by Brightonian
In this thread, about "likes" now being more anonymous, there's a chart from Musk showing spikes of likes on the hour, every hour. Presumably those are bots scheduled at xx:00, to amplify tweets.

But there's also a sharp dip ("anti-spike"? "negative spike"?) just before the hour. I would've expected a fairly uniform distribution in the minutes starting hh:01 to hh:59, but there is definitely this sharp dip at hh:58 or hh:59. Why might that be?

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:20 pm
by dyqik
Brightonian wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:04 pm In this thread, about "likes" now being more anonymous, there's a chart from Musk showing spikes of likes on the hour, every hour. Presumably those are bots scheduled at xx:00, to amplify tweets.

But there's also a sharp dip ("anti-spike"? "negative spike"?) just before the hour. I would've expected a fairly uniform distribution in the minutes starting hh:01 to hh:59, but there is definitely this sharp dip at hh:58 or hh:59. Why might that be?
It could be a slow down in Twitter's backend caused by bots all connecting and liking on the hour that causes a delay in registering and time-stamping likes.

I doubt Twitter is designed to carefully preserve and ensure monotonically increasing time stamps at the second and minute level, with transactional database operations designed to ensure that everything happens without race conditions and with self-consistent metadata, as that's just not required for it, and is computationally more expensive.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:00 pm
by Brightonian
dyqik wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:20 pm
Brightonian wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:04 pm In this thread, about "likes" now being more anonymous, there's a chart from Musk showing spikes of likes on the hour, every hour. Presumably those are bots scheduled at xx:00, to amplify tweets.

But there's also a sharp dip ("anti-spike"? "negative spike"?) just before the hour. I would've expected a fairly uniform distribution in the minutes starting hh:01 to hh:59, but there is definitely this sharp dip at hh:58 or hh:59. Why might that be?
It could be a slow down in Twitter's backend caused by bots all connecting and liking on the hour that causes a delay in registering and time-stamping likes.

I doubt Twitter is designed to carefully preserve and ensure monotonically increasing time stamps at the second and minute level, with transactional database operations designed to ensure that everything happens without race conditions and with self-consistent metadata, as that's just not required for it, and is computationally more expensive.
Thanks, makes sense, more precise timestamps really aren't warranted (unlike, say, stock market transactions).

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:01 pm
by dyqik
It's not unusual for scheduling services to apply a minute level dither to triggering an action, either.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:48 pm
by Beaker
Suddenly my Xitter feed today is full of fascist content. I don’t follow any fascists, I don’t Xit anything on the platform, I don’t interact with it, but today I am swamped with this stuff faster than I can block it. Has the algorithm dial been turned all the way to the right overnight?

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:44 am
by Woodchopper
Beaker wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:48 pm Suddenly my Xitter feed today is full of fascist content. I don’t follow any fascists, I don’t Xit anything on the platform, I don’t interact with it, but today I am swamped with this stuff faster than I can block it. Has the algorithm dial been turned all the way to the right overnight?
The ‘for you’ (algorithmic) option is f.cked. They presumably just assume that everyone is a c.nt. My ‘following’ option still seems to be limited to posts and retweets by people I’ve chosen to follow. May be different for others of course.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:21 am
by dyqik
Plus a whole bunch of people you might follow have left the platform in the last couple of weeks, so there's a higher ratio of Nazis to people putting up with Nazis.

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:25 pm
by nekomatic
Quite a lot of said people seem to have moved to Bluesky, fwiw (just when I was about to have another go at ditching short-form-hot-take-based social media, but there we are).

Re: tw.tter

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 2:45 pm
by dyqik
nekomatic wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:25 pm Quite a lot of said people seem to have moved to Bluesky, fwiw (just when I was about to have another go at ditching short-form-hot-take-based social media, but there we are).
Bluesky does seem the best of the replacements for general use, and has a couple of features over Twitter that should help with general vibe there (minimal algorithm, much more effective blocking), although Mastodon has its place. Threads is trying to do what Meta did to your Facebook algorithm.