Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:49 pm
Whoop Whoop it’s da Police!
Excuses, backpeddling, blaming someone else, laughing it off - all to follow shortly. Words like abuse of public office, malfeasance and lying like a bastard come to mind. I would also draw your attention to Annex A of the Ministerial Code.Gfamily wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:52 pm Looks like the newly issued fines included the office holders at No10 and 11
https://twitter.com/reetacbbc/status/15 ... 6766109705
Yep.Gfamily wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:52 pm Looks like the newly issued fines included the office holders at No10 and 11
https://twitter.com/reetacbbc/status/15 ... 6766109705
I don’t doubt Johnson will try to use his Kyiv trip in his support, but I don’t think it could have happened more than a few days earlier. He wouldn’t have been able to go before the Russians left northern Ukraine but he wanted to go as soon as he could.WFJ wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:24 pm A cynic might think Johnson's Kyiv trip occurred with fortune timing. Similarly the leaks about Sunak and his wife.
That would be funny.El Pollo Diablo wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:28 pm I wonder if Sunak could use this as a weapon. There have been rumours that he might resign recently. Doing so at this point could fatally weaken Johnson.
Probably too much to hope for though.I am sorry for letting the country down and having done so think the only thing an honourable person could do in this position is to stand down from the Government
Lew Dolby wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:34 pm On the perties, have the organisers been given the £10,000 fines applicable? I know a landlord of a pub round here got one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61083402Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak to be fined over lockdown parties
Officials confirmed the three had received notification from the Metropolitan Police that they would be given fixed penalty notices.
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said Mr Johnson and Mr Sunak must resign.
The Met is investigating alleged Covid law-breaking at 12 gatherings in Whitehall and Downing Street.
So far, more than 50 fines have been handed out.
The police said they would not be naming all of those who received the fines, but the government had promised to reveal if Mr Johnson and Mr Sunak were among them.
Resigning for Sunak is possible to do in such a way that he massively undermines Johnson. Fingers crossed.lpm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:44 pm Resigning now is the best option for Sunak.
Clinging on the best option for Johnson.
Allegra Stratton resigned and she wasn't even at the parties.
And Johnson happily took that resignation.
I'd also encourage everyone to re-read the second post in this thread, which is a masterpiece of nonsense.Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:15 pm Does everyone remember this bizarre series of answers to questions given by Downing Street spad. It really is worth reading again.
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/ ... -H0NZSdQFA
Strong and stable.Opti wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:19 pm I see a few Tory MPs who, only a few weeks ago, were saying Johnson must go are now saying it would be wrong for him to resign because it would destabilise the Government.
Yeah, like it's a really stable government.![]()
The anger won't abate. It's so personal for so many. There's utter hatred for Johnson.TopBadger wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:16 pm As I said nearly two months ago this is already priced in, and over the last two months the anger will have abated somewhat.
See this proves De Peppa did nothing wrong.Ministerial Code wrote:c. It is of paramount importance that Ministers give accurate and truthful information to Parliament, correcting any inadvertent error at the earliest opportunity. Ministers who knowingly mislead Parliament will be expected to offer their resignation to the Prime Minister;
It plays to the brand he's spent so long building up, and toxifies it.lpm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:27 pmThe anger won't abate. It's so personal for so many. There's utter hatred for Johnson.TopBadger wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:16 pm As I said nearly two months ago this is already priced in, and over the last two months the anger will have abated somewhat.
I don't think we've ever seen such an electoral liability. The longer he stays, the bigger the damage to the Conservative Party.
We weren’t actually fighting in Iraq when we got rid of Maggie.lpm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:06 pm You're allowed to change PM during a war you are fighting in. Twice during WW2. Once during WW1.
But this isn't our war. British troops aren't fighting. Obviously this rules out changing PM until it's over.