Scrutable

Stephanie wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:13 pm Ok well, I don't know anything about what Facebook have or haven't done about Maxine Waters. Either way, I already said that there was evidence senior execs were intervening in decisions, but we're unlikely to agree about the direction it was taking.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:25 pm There's not really much equivalence between the capitol insurrection and antifa, either.

sheldrake wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:43 pm The incitement to violence justification used in one case and not the others seemed like paper-thin cover for political bias to me.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:47 pm Those poor, poor fascists.

plodder wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:25 pm pffft those kids are about as scary as the rebel dude in Breakfast Club

plodder wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:50 am I watched it. he’s not the fa they’re anti and his complaint is mainly around angry white kids interrupting black kids when he was trying to talk to them.

We all know kids, especially privileged ones, can be dickheads.

plodder wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:13 am so what does your video have to do with that?

That fb is no different from any other sole-proprietor media organisation, but they just use tech to fool us into thinking it's us, not them, who are driving the agenda?

We've known this for years, you're on a forum of intelligent people, you're dragging the conversation back to the ABCs again.

plodder wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:28 am What are the actual biases in the Daily Telegraph, or Private Eye, or the BBC? The solutions tend to be the same: before an organisation becomes a monopoly, break it up.

The underlying problem is that in the internet era new monopolies can emerge very quickly, putting enormous stress on what little power the regulators have left.

plodder wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:46 am and yet here we are, talking (again) about how the alt right sees things clearly

Cardinal Fang wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:58 pm Were the people smashing things up really antifa, or were they black bloc protesters?

Whilst black bloc protesters do sometimes appear at antifa protests, you'll also see them at anti-capitalist, anti-globalization, anti-nuclear weapons, anti austerity demos, anarchist marches and so forth.

Black bloc and antifa are not the same thing. Black bloc is a tactic (i.e. wearing black and masks to make it hard to differentiate between individuals; emphasis on strong direct action up to and including violence), antifa is an organising principle.

If it helps, think about the difference between XR stopping traffic and environmentalism.

CF

Pishwish wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:04 am Yeah, judge for yourself whether Maxine Waters was "excusing/justifying antifa violence."