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plebian wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:22 pm Tinfoil hat territory but how likely is it that he got it on purpose?

Bird on a Fire wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:50 pm

plebian wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:22 pm Tinfoil hat territory but how likely is it that he got it on purpose?

I mean, we already know he deliberately didn't bother following even the few restrictions his government imposed, boasting of shaking hands with doctors and not bothering with social distancing and all that malarkey.

While I'm sure he didn't go up to a patient on a ventilator and start huffing their dribble I think it's pretty clear that, at absolute best, he took no precautions against getting it, but quite possibly thought it would be a good thing to catch it and get it over with.

Pucksoppet wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:58 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:50 pm

plebian wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:22 pm Tinfoil hat territory but how likely is it that he got it on purpose?

I mean, we already know he deliberately didn't bother following even the few restrictions his government imposed, boasting of shaking hands with doctors and not bothering with social distancing and all that malarkey.

While I'm sure he didn't go up to a patient on a ventilator and start huffing their dribble I think it's pretty clear that, at absolute best, he took no precautions against getting it, but quite possibly thought it would be a good thing to catch it and get it over with.

If he did, it could be a manifestation of a peculiar right wing/social conservative view that bad things only happen to other people who obviously deserved them, because if they didn't deserve them, bad things wouldn't have happened to them. Poor people are poor because they don't work hard enough and exploit the cornucopia of opportunities in front of them; ill people are ill due to moral laxity and slovenliness. Never happens to right-thinking folk.

lpm wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:36 pm

lpm wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:10 pm

Martin Y wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:49 pm
He'll be kicking himself if he dies.

So is he going to die, then? I mean, LPM said elsewhere it was about the right stage for an autoimmune reaction to get him but I don't know if that was serious or just a bit of catastrophising to cheer us up. Has his doc packed him off to hospital because he reckons there's a cytokine storm coming?

Doesn't sound as if he's at serious risk. But being not too ill in the first week doesn't rule out being very ill in the second. He might well be in hospital for days, then in recovery for a couple of weeks.

He really shouldn't be working. Politically it's a mistake - he's looking like the sort of macho tw.t who's scared to go to the doctors. Women voters in particular would rate him higher if he was upfront and acknowledged we all can get ill and need help.

That didn't age well.

Bird on a Fire wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:50 pm

plebian wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:22 pm Tinfoil hat territory but how likely is it that he got it on purpose?

I mean, we already know he deliberately didn't bother following even the few restrictions his government imposed, boasting of shaking hands with doctors and not bothering with social distancing and all that malarkey.

While I'm sure he didn't go up to a patient on a ventilator and start huffing their dribble I think it's pretty clear that, at absolute best, he took no precautions against getting it, but quite possibly thought it would be a good thing to catch it and get it over with.

Woodchopper wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:49 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:50 pm

plebian wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:22 pm Tinfoil hat territory but how likely is it that he got it on purpose?

I mean, we already know he deliberately didn't bother following even the few restrictions his government imposed, boasting of shaking hands with doctors and not bothering with social distancing and all that malarkey.

While I'm sure he didn't go up to a patient on a ventilator and start huffing their dribble I think it's pretty clear that, at absolute best, he took no precautions against getting it, but quite possibly thought it would be a good thing to catch it and get it over with.

Various right wing commentators have been stating that concern over Covid was just media driven hysteria while in fact Covid is no worse that influenza. Possible that back then Johnson didn’t take the warnings seriously.

FlammableFlower wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:12 pm Would that work with the incubation time? I've lost track of time, so I have no idea now when he was doing that and when he may have been taking things more seriously.

Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:47 pm Starmer, Milliband, Corbyn and Dave all tweeting best wishes to Boris Johnson this evening

Trump instead just pushes his new favourite drug

Woodchopper wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm

FlammableFlower wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:12 pm Would that work with the incubation time? I've lost track of time, so I have no idea now when he was doing that and when he may have been taking things more seriously.

Maybe. He said that he’d been shaking hands with patients on 3 March and he tested positive on 27 March.

Three weeks is a bit long for an incubation period. But he may have shook hands after 3 March, and May have had some symptoms before he was tested.

sTeamTraen wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:03 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:47 pm Starmer, Milliband, Corbyn and Dave all tweeting best wishes to Boris Johnson this evening

Trump instead just pushes his new favourite drug

I read that Trump said something not entirely inappropriate (amazingly) at his press conference. Presumably one bit of empathy per day is his limit.

I think he may be being quite canny with the (hydroxy)chloroquine. Maybe it's because he can't spell it, but from what I've seen (and it's true that I don't spend a lot of time on his outout), his support for it seems to have been more of the nudge-nudge variety. Of course the believers in his base will lap that up --- that's the point --- but it could be that his medical advisers have at least got him to not hold up the box on TV and say "ask for this, folks".

Bird on a Fire wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:04 pm

Woodchopper wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm

FlammableFlower wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:12 pm Would that work with the incubation time? I've lost track of time, so I have no idea now when he was doing that and when he may have been taking things more seriously.

Maybe. He said that he’d been shaking hands with patients on 3 March and he tested positive on 27 March.

Three weeks is a bit long for an incubation period. But he may have shook hands after 3 March, and May have had some symptoms before he was tested.

It needn't be the case that he contracted the virus on that exact occasion. I think it's fairly well documented that he and his coterie took a pretty slapdash approach to the enhanced hygiene for quite some time (right up until several of them got ill, in fact).

Grumble wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:15 pm I also hope he recovers, and learns from the experience. I’m not confident that if he does recover he will learn. David Cameron went on about how much he loved the NHS because of what his son went through, but his legacy doesn’t really reflect that.

Sigh.
May God grant him good health, clear insight, perfect repentance, and a long memory.

greyspoke wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:37 am You are very predictable lpm

tom p wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:54 amHe's not your f.cking mate, and if he was, he'd have tried to f.ck your wife by now.

tom p wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:54 am

greyspoke wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:37 am You are very predictable lpm

But she's right.
What kind of lickspittle feels the need to wish a psychopathic c.nt well because he's a victim of his own arrogance?
He would kill every one of us without blinking if he thought it would personally enrich or empower him.
Plus, Boris is his stage name. Don't further the use of it. He's not your f.cking mate, and if he was, he'd have tried to f.ck your wife by now.