Anti-semitic pogroms in Europe in 2024

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2021: UEFA sanction Young Boys for crowd disturbances vs Ferencvaros.
2023: Young Boys fined again for hooliganism at Man City.
2025: Young Boys lose in Aarrau. 5 fans hospitalised after being burned by their own pyrotechnics. Police attacked by Young Boys fans - one injured and two cars damaged.

A known hooligan fanbase descended on Birmingham & Ayoub Khan, Owen Jones & Mehdi Hasan were silent. No calls to ban Young Boys supporters. Predictable violence occurs.

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were banned from Villa Park because they were victims of a Jew Hunt in Amsterdam.

Make it make sense.
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Rather good summary by Ian Austin of the “evidence” given to the Select Committee on Monday by the WM Police Chief Constable.

https://x.com/lordianaustin/status/1995932661349777703
Ian Austin on Twitter wrote: I watched the @WMPolice Chief Constable's evidence to @CommonsHomeAffs again.

As far as I can see, we are being asked to believe that Dutch Police lied:

- in their report on the Ajax-Maccabi game a year ago
- to the Dutch public
- to the Dutch media
- to ⁠their own inspectorate
- ⁠to the Sunday Times

And, as a result of those lies, senior Dutch politicians and the King of the Netherlands said things that were not true as well.

But don't worry, because the Dutch Police then told the truth, just once, in a secret and unrecorded Zoom meeting with West Midlands Police of which no minute was taken.

Forgive my cynicism, but how plausible do you think that is?
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A couple of articles about the what happened here:

The Times: https://archive.ph/sATSy
The NYT: https://archive.ph/B6UoX

It's increasingly looking like the West Midlands Police shat the bed over this.
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This all begs the question of why a football team from a country that is comitting genocude and war crimes on a daily basis is allowed to play in the UK. We don't let Russia play after all.
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Here we go with the whataboutery.
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I thought that UEFA had looked into banning Israel (and hence Israeli teams) from competitions, but ran into trouble from FIFA (pressurised by the USA).
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Tristan wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:06 pm Here we go with the whataboutery.
Nope.

Anti semitism sucks. So does genocide.
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WMP getting this so wrong does not “beg the question” you say it does. The two are unrelated. WMP have no input or influence of that.
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WMP still can’t get any of this right https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev82g41vpdo
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