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Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:32 am
by monkey
lpm wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:14 am
I'm watching this press conference.
Biden is nothing like the debate. A couple of silly gaffes, classic Biden, that everyone will talk about. But everything else is intelligent and competent.
The usual stumbling over words and a tendency to ramble a bit - but that's more because there's too much he wants to say.
He certainly knows foreign policy and unites the Nato allies.
Yeah, but right now it's the gaffes that are important.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
by TopBadger
Crace is pretty scathing on the NATO presser...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... y-has-sunk
Was it really this bad?
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:25 am
by lpm
No, it wasn't that bad.
That journalist is just another idiot who confuses intelligence and articulacy. President Biden's answers were always intelligent and never articulate.
Unfortunately the voters are idiots in the same way. Biden is finished because everyone points at the 3 second gaffe and doesn't bother to listen to the 3 minute analysis of the Gsza situation.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:32 am
by discovolante
It is John Crace's job to be scathing.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:07 am
by lpm
Well then he should have been scathing about the president restricting Ukraine’s use of long range missiles or his failure to supply food to Gaza.
Not scathing about ungrammatical sentences.
The media has become irredeemably shallow. Completely lost in style, forgotten about substance.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:13 pm
by Stranger Mouse
lpm wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:07 am
Well then he should have been scathing about the president restricting Ukraine’s use of long range missiles or his failure to supply food to Gaza.
Not scathing about ungrammatical sentences.
The media has become irredeemably shallow. Completely lost in style, forgotten about substance.
I wonder who they will blame when Trump shuts them all down.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:22 pm
by dyqik
Stranger Mouse wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:13 pm
lpm wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:07 am
Well then he should have been scathing about the president restricting Ukraine’s use of long range missiles or his failure to supply food to Gaza.
Not scathing about ungrammatical sentences.
The media has become irredeemably shallow. Completely lost in style, forgotten about substance.
I wonder who they will blame when Trump shuts them all down.
Anyone but themselves. After all, the media has no choice or agency in how it writes stories or presents them. At the same time, they are a critical guard on democracy, and definitely can't be replaced with a simple AI or script.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:51 pm
by discovolante
lpm wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:07 am
Well then he should have been scathing about the president restricting Ukraine’s use of long range missiles or his failure to supply food to Gaza.
Not scathing about ungrammatical sentences.
The media has become irredeemably shallow. Completely lost in style, forgotten about substance.
Sorry that wasn't really aimed at you, it was more of a comment that of course he's going to be scathing because that's how he earns his living. Not disagreeing with your point though.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
by lpm
Florida stolen documents case dismissed.
Not sure it matters any more. Was never going to happen before the election, President Trump would have squashed it in January.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Judge Cannon dismisses the classified documents case
ETA lpm beat me to it
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:16 pm
by Stranger Mouse
It was dismissed on the basis that Jack Smith was illegally appointed and funded despite the face the most of the legal pundits have said it wouldn’t happen because he wasn’t illegally appointed and funded
https://x.com/klasfeldreports/status/18 ... 84694?s=61

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ETA she used Thomas’ concurrence during the immunity decision
https://x.com/klasfeldreports/status/18 ... 44662?s=61
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:22 pm
by IvanV
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
Florida stolen documents case dismissed.
Not sure it matters any more. Was never going to happen before the election, President Trump would have squashed it in January.
This case was already dead in the water in terms of its relevance, as that partisan judge had already ensured. Maybe she won't even get a fight over dismissing it on such flimsy grounds. Maybe recent heavily partisan judgments by SCOTUS have emboldened her.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:59 pm
by dyqik
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
Florida stolen documents case dismissed.
Not sure it matters any more. Was never going to happen before the election, President Trump would have squashed it in January.
If the higher courts agree, then Hunter Biden's conviction is also overturned, and almost all of the Jan 6th cases. Letting drug addict gunowners and violent criminals back onto the streets will surely help Trump's election chances...
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:01 pm
by Stranger Mouse
dyqik wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:59 pm
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
Florida stolen documents case dismissed.
Not sure it matters any more. Was never going to happen before the election, President Trump would have squashed it in January.
If the higher courts agree, then Hunter Biden's conviction is also overturned, and almost all of the Jan 6th cases. Letting drug addict gunowners and violent criminals back onto the streets will surely help Trump's election chances...
I’m sure they will involve some motivated reasoning to exonerate Trump and get Hunter the chair
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:05 pm
by Stranger Mouse
The new gentler unifying tone didn’t last very long although the good new for E Jean Carrollis that he libels her again.

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Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:14 pm
by Stranger Mouse
J D Vance is VP pick. And also an a..eh.le.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:57 pm
by lpm
Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:14 pm
J D Vance is VP pick. And also an a..eh.le.
Didn't he used to write science fiction? Back in the day?
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:08 pm
by Grumble
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 pm
Florida stolen documents case dismissed.
Not sure it matters any more. Was never going to happen before the election, President Trump would have squashed it in January.
Sure I remember some people, possibly just the Cog Diss guys, talking about how it was such a slam dunk case that choosing to file it in the court of a Trump appointee was a power move.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:21 pm
by dyqik
Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:14 pm
J D Vance is VP pick. And also an a..eh.le.
And a puppet of Peter Thiel.
It's certainly not an appointment that expands Trump's appeal - it's not going to help with women, latinos or blacks. Plus Vance has pissed off a lot of people in Appalachia.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:31 pm
by lpm
It is intended to win MI and PA.
The purpose of the VP candidate is to attack the other side's Presidential candidate and to win a key state or key part of the coalition. Vance is ideal for both tasks.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:44 pm
by Stranger Mouse
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:57 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:14 pm
J D Vance is VP pick. And also an a..eh.le.
Didn't he used to write science fiction? Back in the day?
You thinking of Jack Vance?
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 pm
by dyqik
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:31 pm
It is intended to win MI and PA.
The purpose of the VP candidate is to attack the other side's Presidential candidate and to win a key state or key part of the coalition. Vance is ideal for both tasks.
I don't see how a millionaire silicon valley elitist helps with that.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:56 pm
by monkey
dyqik wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:21 pm
Plus Vance has pissed off a lot of people in Appalachia.
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:31 pm
It is intended to win MI and
PA.
I thought pretty much all of Pennsylvania was in Appalachia, because that's where the mountains go. It turns out it's more complicated than that and lots of people have ideas about that sort of thing.
But I did find out that for some definitions, I am in Appalachia, which I'm pretty sure is stretching things a bit.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:08 pm
by lpm
dyqik wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 pm
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:31 pm
It is intended to win MI and PA.
The purpose of the VP candidate is to attack the other side's Presidential candidate and to win a key state or key part of the coalition. Vance is ideal for both tasks.
I don't see how a millionaire silicon valley elitist helps with that.
You really do need to learn to stop referring to reality.
Reality has nothing to do with it.
Re: Indecision 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:44 am
by dyqik
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:08 pm
dyqik wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:48 pm
lpm wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:31 pm
It is intended to win MI and PA.
The purpose of the VP candidate is to attack the other side's Presidential candidate and to win a key state or key part of the coalition. Vance is ideal for both tasks.
I don't see how a millionaire silicon valley elitist helps with that.
You really do need to learn to stop referring to reality.
Reality has nothing to do with it.
Ok. People from Pennsylvania and Michigan hate people from Ohio.