Re: Starmer
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:17 pm
AbsolutelyEl Pollo Diablo wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 5:22 pm This whole thing is so f.cking depressing. f.cks sake.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... t-messagesmonkey wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 1:49 pm My prediction is that more things are going to be noticed until Starmer quits.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-watchdogmonkey wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 1:49 pm My prediction is that more things are going to be noticed until Starmer quits.
It's hard to imagine any conversation in which Starmer could have persuaded Reeves to do that. I am trying, but my mind keeps going back to a Beyond the Fringe sketch from over sixty years ago.bob sterman wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:47 pm Since this is relevant to the future of Starmer...
Some very interesting word choices by Rachel Reeves today - that suggest Starmer will be ditching her soon to take the fall for a range of things.
"I will make the choices necessary to deliver strong foundations for our economy"
"There is a lot of speculation about the choices that I will make."
"the choices I make in the Budget this month"
Throughout the speech - all the choices about stuff people won't like were hers alone - and all the good stuff (building houses, infrastructure, bearing down on NHS waiting lists) were collective - things "we" are doing.
I don't think this is coincidental - I reckon Starmer has told her to create some distance between them.
War's a psychological thing, Perkins, rather like a game of football. You know how, in a game of football, ten men often play better than eleven?
Yes sir.
Perkins, we're asking you to be that one man.
I doubt that's it. The treasury makes decisions on the budget. That's her job. The good stuff (building houses, fixing the NHS etc.) is delivered by others in government.bob sterman wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:47 pm Since this is relevant to the future of Starmer...
Some very interesting word choices by Rachel Reeves today - that suggest Starmer will be ditching her soon to take the fall for a range of things.
"I will make the choices necessary to deliver strong foundations for our economy"
"There is a lot of speculation about the choices that I will make."
"the choices I make in the Budget this month"
Throughout the speech - all the choices about stuff people won't like were hers alone - and all the good stuff (building houses, infrastructure, bearing down on NHS waiting lists) were collective - things "we" are doing.
I don't think this is coincidental - I reckon Starmer has told her to create some distance between them.
Yes - but most politicians, if they knew they were about to serve up something likely to be unpopular would try to share the blame with plenty by using "we" as much as possible.Tristan wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:44 am I doubt that's it. The treasury makes decisions on the budget. That's her job. The good stuff (building houses, fixing the NHS etc.) is delivered by others in government.