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ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:05 pm
by dyqik
He's ex-President, so how long?

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:06 pm
by Vertigowooyay
I mean, he won't be arrested by dessert, but since I mentioned it in the other thread, I may as well have the integrity to stand by it.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by FlammableFlower
I'd like it to be after dessert tonight, but I very much doubt it. I'm sure it won't take too long before the paperwork begins.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm
by Bird on a Fire
I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.

I certainly don't expect there to be any rush to do it. They know where he'll be. I expect he's probably too racist to be much of a flight risk.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:44 pm
by dyqik
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.

I certainly don't expect there to be any rush to do it. They know where he'll be. I expect he's probably too racist to be much of a flight risk.
I could see him going to Saudi Arabia, he's misogynist enough and teetotal, after all. To live in an all ex-pat gated community.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm
by dyqik
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.
After his funeral is the never/cockend option.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:51 pm
by Bird on a Fire
dyqik wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:44 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.

I certainly don't expect there to be any rush to do it. They know where he'll be. I expect he's probably too racist to be much of a flight risk.
I could see him going to Saudi Arabia, he's misogynist enough and teetotal, after all. To live in an all ex-pat gated community.
He's famously not too keen on Muslims, though.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:52 pm
by Bird on a Fire
dyqik wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.
After his funeral is the never/cockend option.
Fair dinkum. I #voted.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:53 pm
by Gfamily
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:51 pm
dyqik wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:44 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.

I certainly don't expect there to be any rush to do it. They know where he'll be. I expect he's probably too racist to be much of a flight risk.
I could see him going to Saudi Arabia, he's misogynist enough and teetotal, after all. To live in an all ex-pat gated community.
He's famously not too keen on Muslims, though.
Shouldn't be a problem, the Saudis aren't too keen on half of the Muslims either.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:00 pm
by Herainestold
He will stay in Florida surrounded by his peeps.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:01 pm
by Vertigowooyay
This thread title offends me. You should respect the office and use the full title “Single Term, Twice Impeached Ex-President Trump”

In the unlikely event the Senate vote to convict, feel free to officially add “Disgraced” somewhere in there.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:02 pm
by dyqik
Herainestold wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:00 pm He will stay in Florida surrounded by his peeps.
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Image

(Peeps are some terrible marshmallow candy things)

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:03 pm
by dyqik
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:51 pm
dyqik wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:44 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:42 pm I'm guessing never, which isn't an option in the poll.

I certainly don't expect there to be any rush to do it. They know where he'll be. I expect he's probably too racist to be much of a flight risk.
I could see him going to Saudi Arabia, he's misogynist enough and teetotal, after all. To live in an all ex-pat gated community.
He's famously not too keen on Muslims, though.
Hence the ex-pat gated community.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:33 pm
by Woodchopper
People will soon start discussing United States versus Nixon, Nixon versus Fitzgerald and Clinton versus Jones.

Basically the President has a certain degree of immunity from prosecution or civil law suits concerning the actions committed while they were President and performing their presidential duties. That immunity doesn't extend to actions before they were sworn in, nor to actions that took place when they were President but weren't part of their official duties.

However, there is a fuzzy distinction between what is and isn't part of a President's duties, and that could employ armies of lawyers for years.

So Trump could be sued or prosecuted for anything that happened before 20 January 2017. For things that happened afterward, its complicated.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:35 pm
by Woodchopper
I voted never after his funeral. Trump is 74 and not in great shape. I expect that criminal investigations will take years and be held up by legal disputes. He'll probably die first.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:39 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Woodchopper wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:35 pm I voted never after his funeral. Trump is 74 and not in great shape. I expect that criminal investigations will take years and be held up by legal disputes. He'll probably die first.
I imagine he will be indicted but not go to prison. Not sure about his kids though.

So who is going to get custody of Qanon?

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/13519 ... 20515?s=21

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:47 pm
by Little waster
Herainestold wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:00 pm He will stay in Florida surrounded by his peeps.
Something poetic about him ending his term in the middle of a swamp, surrounded by vicious reptiles and meth-addicts.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:06 pm
by FlammableFlower
Seen on Twitter, MAGA bros realising they've been had:

4 years of getting called a nazi and all I got is this stupid MAGA hat

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:10 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Woodchopper wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:33 pm People will soon start discussing United States versus Nixon, Nixon versus Fitzgerald and Clinton versus Jones.

Basically the President has a certain degree of immunity from prosecution or civil law suits concerning the actions committed while they were President and performing their presidential duties. That immunity doesn't extend to actions before they were sworn in, nor to actions that took place when they were President but weren't part of their official duties.

However, there is a fuzzy distinction between what is and isn't part of a President's duties, and that could employ armies of lawyers for years.

So Trump could be sued or prosecuted for anything that happened before 20 January 2017. For things that happened afterward, its complicated.
I’m shocked to see you were one of the people who did not accept that defaming people he had allegedly raped is not part of his Presidential duties

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:17 pm
by dyqik
A thread of one photographer's images to remember him by:

https://twitter.com/steve_lieber/status ... 33761?s=20

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:26 pm
by discovolante
dyqik wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:17 pm A thread of one photographer's images to remember him by:

https://twitter.com/steve_lieber/status ... 33761?s=20
I thought I didn't want to see a load of photos of Trump...but I did.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:45 pm
by basementer
discovolante wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:26 pm
dyqik wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:17 pm A thread of one photographer's images to remember him by:

https://twitter.com/steve_lieber/status ... 33761?s=20
I thought I didn't want to see a load of photos of Trump...but I did.
This one, though not by the same photographer (Barria) is also good:
Image

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 pm
by FlammableFlower
Ted Cruz, desperately wanting to inherit Trump's base...:
By rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, President Biden indicates he’s more interested in the views of the citizens of Paris than in the jobs of the citizens of Pittsburgh. This agreement will do little to affect the climate and will harm the livelihoods of Americans.
To which Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, responded: "Quick question: do you also believe the Geneva Convention was about the views of the citizens of Geneva?"

What beggars belief is that there are people on Twitter agreeing with him.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:03 pm
by Bird on a Fire
FlammableFlower wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 pm Ted Cruz, desperately wanting to inherit Trump's base...:
By rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, President Biden indicates he’s more interested in the views of the citizens of Paris than in the jobs of the citizens of Pittsburgh. This agreement will do little to affect the climate and will harm the livelihoods of Americans.
To which Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, responded: "Quick question: do you also believe the Geneva Convention was about the views of the citizens of Geneva?"

What beggars belief is that there are people on Twitter agreeing with him.
Also worth noting that the city of Pittsburgh was one of many US jurisdictions to continue to try to meet Paris commitments despite Trump's withdrawal.

Re: ex-President Trump

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:32 pm
by headshot
FlammableFlower wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 pm Ted Cruz, desperately wanting to inherit Trump's base...:
By rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, President Biden indicates he’s more interested in the views of the citizens of Paris than in the jobs of the citizens of Pittsburgh. This agreement will do little to affect the climate and will harm the livelihoods of Americans.
To which Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, responded: "Quick question: do you also believe the Geneva Convention was about the views of the citizens of Geneva?"

What beggars belief is that there are people on Twitter agreeing with him.
He said it **because** there are people on Twitter that agree with him.