Women win Nobel Prize!!!

[lpm]

Complete shock! Never seen women winning these things before. Is the male domination finally ending?

The BBC is leading with a lovely photo of the three women hugging each other. They certainly look happy to win.



Haven't had time to read the actual article yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58787438

[purplehaze]

So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.

I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.

[Fishnut]

That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.

[lpm]

Oh.

[purplehaze]

So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.

I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.

Sarcasm alert if anyone is in doubt.

[Stephanie]

That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.

i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?

[Fishnut]

That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.

i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?

I thought as much but given people's tendencies to not follow links I thought I'd be explicit in what was going on.

[sheldrake]

How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?

[plodder]

How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?

Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.

[sheldrake]

I apologise, I’m being forcecious and unkind.I will keep that in The Pit

[dyqik]

How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?

Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.

The Washington Post uses He for David, and will likely have checked.

[bmforre]

From the awarding authority.

Yes, both winners are males.

[Grumble]

Literature or Peace?

[jimbob]

Marie Curie was rather well-respected

[Boustrophedon]

Marie Curie was rather well-respected

Twice.

[Gfamily]

Marie Curie was rather well-respected

Twice.

High achieving family
Mum and Dad won (mum twice), and two of their three children won as well. The husband of the third child accepted the Nobel prize on behalf of Unicef - which was nice.

[Woodchopper]

Here’s a whole academic article on the subject: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0256-3

[lpm]

Hang on a sec, I'll just go and check which women won the physics one, be right back.

[lpm]

Chemistry day.

My hopes are high.

[headshot]

You should all have known LPM was trolling the minute they posted a link...

[lpm]

I've missed a few days in which, no doubt, hundreds of women won.

Chemistry - nope
Literature - nope
Economics - nope
Peace - OH MY GOD DO MY EYES DECEIVE ME

Final score: 12-1.

[IvanV]

Economics - nope

Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.

[plodder]

Some chat about the stats

https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/1 ... el-prizes/

[monkey]

Economics - nope

Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.

Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?

Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.

[IvanV]

Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.

Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?

Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
[/quote]
OK. I read some paper that claimed that Economics prizes were the most biased against women, doing some complicated stats. But it seems not borne out by this simple metric.