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Ohio legislators have introduced a bill that would require doctors to do the impossible when treating ectopic pregnancies

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -pregnancy

Gfamily wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:30 pm Ohio legislators have introduced a bill that would require doctors to do the impossible when treating ectopic pregnancies

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -pregnancy

And to basically commit stochastic murder while doing so.

They are not really requiring doctors to do the impossible. They are really preventing doctors from obstructing their fixation with abortion, the prevention of which is so obviously more important that preventing a woman dying in agony.

Thinking this couldn't possibly be true, I read through the 'conditional' words in the draft bill, as shown in the Hackney e-mail exchange, thinking there was an outcome in which re-implantation did not need to be attempted because it was impossible.

But no, the draft bill mandates the attempt. "If applicable" can only be taken to mean 'in the case of an ectopic pregnancy''.

In a very few cases, both woman and child can survive an undetected ectopic pregnancy (following abdominal implantation, for instance). Having written about this condition, I actually, by complete chance, met such a mother! But it is so improbable and unpredictable that no rational decision making process would allow an ectopic pregnancy to proceed.

There are more than 7000 state legislators. Some fraction of them are bound to be morons. Also:

- Any legislator can introduce a bill. Most don't go anywhere. Most aren't really even intended to go anywhere, they are just signaling something to a constituent group.

- Even if this somehow became state law in Ohio, there is zero chance of it standing up in court unless the Supremes overturned a whole lot of precedent -- which could of course happen, but then there would be a wider problem than just these wackadoodles in Ohio.

How about every time a Republican has a w.nk a doctor is obliged by law to inject the cum back into his balls?

Re Bolo, a worrying aspect of all this is that it is part of a wider effort to get the Supreme Court to make abortion a federal crime. Yes there are morons, but there are many of them, and they have a plan.

GeenDienst wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 am Re Bolo, a worrying aspect of all this is that it is part of a wider effort to get the Supreme Court to make abortion a federal crime. Yes there are morons, but there are many of them, and they have a plan.

Sure, but this is a fringe part of that. Pay close attention to the wider effort, but for this bill, just point and laugh.

shpalman wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:50 am How about every time a Republican has a w.nk a doctor is obliged by law to inject the cum back into his balls?

lmao, yes

bolo wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:06 pm

GeenDienst wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 am Re Bolo, a worrying aspect of all this is that it is part of a wider effort to get the Supreme Court to make abortion a federal crime. Yes there are morons, but there are many of them, and they have a plan.

Sure, but this is a fringe part of that. Pay close attention to the wider effort, but for this bill, just point and laugh.

I wouldn't be laughing if I were an Ohio ob/gyn.
You'd win in the end; but how long will you spend inside or unable to work?

The bill has been introduced and referred to the Ohio House's Criminal Justice Committee. Neither of its primary sponsors sits on that committee. The committee chair is not a co-sponsor. My guess is that the bill will never even reach the floor for a vote, at least not with this provision still in it.

bolo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:17 am The bill has been introduced and referred to the Ohio House's Criminal Justice Committee. Neither of its primary sponsors sits on that committee. The committee chair is not a co-sponsor. My guess is that the bill will never even reach the floor for a vote, at least not with this provision still in it.

That's good. I was reading quickly so didn't notice it had only been introduced rather than passed.

The USA *really* needs to sort out its gerrymandering problem that causes retarded sh.t like this to be introduced

The gerrymandering is advantageous to the Grim Old Party, so it will linger like the unemployed brother-in-law sleeping on the sofa.

As for mandating the impossible remember the promise of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness."

GeenDienst wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:25 am Re Bolo, a worrying aspect of all this is that it is part of a wider effort to get the Supreme Court to make abortion a federal crime. Yes there are morons, but there are many of them, and they have a plan.

Exactly this. They know these ludicrous proposals with get knocked back by other courts, it's just a run for the Supreme Court to try and overturn Roe v Wade. The fact that the bogus legislation is always so f.cking horrifying is because as they do this, they also want to make sure everyone knows they really hate women.

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm As for mandating the impossible remember the promise of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness."

Those never got proposed as an actual law or constitutional right.

dyqik wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:50 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm As for mandating the impossible remember the promise of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness."

Those never got proposed as an actual law or constitutional right.

And even if they were they are possible to achieve.

dyqik wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:50 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm As for mandating the impossible remember the promise of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness."

Those never got proposed as an actual law or constitutional right.

It was a mandate of the people. If you don't believe me, ask the people.

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm The gerrymandering is advantageous to the Grim Old Party, so it will linger like the unemployed brother-in-law sleeping on the sofa.

True, although I prefer "anti-democratic" as a description that works on two levels to describe their current core values.

jimbob wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:48 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:32 pm The gerrymandering is advantageous to the Grim Old Party, so it will linger like the unemployed brother-in-law sleeping on the sofa.

True, although I prefer "anti-democratic" as a description that works on two levels to describe their current core values.

I would agree that we're both right after a fashion.

shpalman wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:50 am How about every time a Republican has a w.nk a doctor is obliged by law to inject the cum back into his balls?

Or make them serve 250 million* consecutive life sentences for murder.





*your wrigglage may vary

I had my tubage snipped. How many life sentences do I get for wrigglers never made?

And I'm impressed you looked the figure up, TBF.

GeenDienst wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:29 pm I had my tubage snipped. How many life sentences do I get for wrigglers never made?

And I'm impressed you looked the figure up, TBF.

I had the number 300m vaguely remembered and decided to check. That's shrinkflation for you.

Little waster wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:33 pm

GeenDienst wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:29 pm I had my tubage snipped. How many life sentences do I get for wrigglers never made?

And I'm impressed you looked the figure up, TBF.

I had the number 300m vaguely remembered and decided to check. That's shrinkflation for you.

We're none of us as young as we used to be.