Getting Brexit done
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Yeah, 'cos the Brexit party would have got a deal with no transition period...
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Meanwhile, Barnier's elf-in-chief is warning that those checks on animals moving across the Irish sea are a legal obligation, while our PM is assuring the DUP that they won't happen.
And elsewhere in that live blog, it seems the point of a US trade deal is to have somewhere to send all those cars. Except that it appears we have to roll over for the US tech giants' tax avoidance plans, or there will be tariffs on them.
And elsewhere in that live blog, it seems the point of a US trade deal is to have somewhere to send all those cars. Except that it appears we have to roll over for the US tech giants' tax avoidance plans, or there will be tariffs on them.
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.
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He should get a giant banner saying "Mission Accomplished" for a photo op on one of our aircraft carriers. That could be the defining image of how he got Brexit done.TopBadger wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:43 am^ Looking forward to the OED extending it's definition of a moron.
Still - apparently we've crossed the Brexit finish line now
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I guess it can't hurt to make some use of the carrier before the planes arrive...Martin Y wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:12 pmHe should get a giant banner saying "Mission Accomplished" for a photo op on one of our aircraft carriers. That could be the defining image of how he got Brexit done.TopBadger wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:43 am^ Looking forward to the OED extending it's definition of a moron.
Still - apparently we've crossed the Brexit finish line now
You can't polish a turd...
unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
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Bill got royal assent now, and it's law. Doesn't change anything, I know, but it's still sh.t.
IIRC, this also means crashing out at the end of 2020 is also the default in law. Says here it has a clause:
IIRC, this also means crashing out at the end of 2020 is also the default in law. Says here it has a clause:
...prohibiting any UK Minister from agreeing to an extension of the transition or implementation period in the Joint Committee (new clause 33)
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.
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I'll agree itGeenDienst wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:35 pmBill got royal assent now, and it's law. Doesn't change anything, I know, but it's still sh.t.
IIRC, this also means crashing out at the end of 2020 is also the default in law. Says here it has a clause:
...prohibiting any UK Minister from agreeing to an extension of the transition or implementation period in the Joint Committee (new clause 33)
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Does that not fall foul of "parliament cannot bind itself?"
Would be an interesting constitutional issue, on an alternative timeline where it could actually arise.
Would be an interesting constitutional issue, on an alternative timeline where it could actually arise.
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Nope, because Parliament could change the law again.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:44 pmDoes that not fall foul of "parliament cannot bind itself?"
Would be an interesting constitutional issue, on an alternative timeline where it could actually arise.
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I think it's about the executive being bound, rather than parliament, and repealing it it makes it a bigger deal through being a bigger climb down, and thus increases the risk of the crashout.
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.
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Nearly done.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
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So where will you be 23:00 on Jan 31? This is like new year's eve, only even more depressing.
Guessing I won't be in Wetherspoons, probably.
Guessing I won't be in Wetherspoons, probably.
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.
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We'll be in a pub with our astronomy group consoling each other - we did the same on the evening of 24th June 2016.GeenDienst wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:53 amSo where will you be 23:00 on Jan 31? This is like new year's eve, only even more depressing.
Guessing I won't be in Wetherspoons, probably.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
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What happens next - analysis by Ian Dunt
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
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Oof. The rules of origin stuff is going to be fun...
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Wow.Gfamily wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:21 pmWhat happens next - analysis by Ian Dunt
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
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Yeah, it's all those bits that return out to be faaaaar more complicated than you realise and have all sorts of knock-on effects. That and the fact that Boris's "easy" NI solution will hang around like nuclear waste.plodder wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:39 pmWow.Gfamily wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:21 pmWhat happens next - analysis by Ian Dunt
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
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The picture in my mind's eye is of Alexander sitting on a tree branch, busily applying a saw to the portion between him and the trunk, with him saying: "I'm making tree-mendous progress!".
But talk of all these difficulties is 'obviously' a remainer defeatist plot.
I feel sorry for all the people whose lives will be made more difficult by Brexit. They have not been served well by the media or parliament and the powerful. I just hope that when they get angry, their ire will be directed at the correct targets.
But talk of all these difficulties is 'obviously' a remainer defeatist plot.
I feel sorry for all the people whose lives will be made more difficult by Brexit. They have not been served well by the media or parliament and the powerful. I just hope that when they get angry, their ire will be directed at the correct targets.
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We're even more f.cked than I thought we were.plodder wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:39 pmWow.Gfamily wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:21 pmWhat happens next - analysis by Ian Dunt
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.
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...but Johnson revealed in the autumn that he's a terrible negotiator who always folds. He'll agree to the EU's offer then lie about it.
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The article is hysterical drivel. The writing style is breathlessly adolescent.plodder wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:39 pmWow.Gfamily wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:21 pmWhat happens next - analysis by Ian Dunt
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/0 ... son-s-trad
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Hysterical drivel? The writing style breathlessly adolescent? Must have been written by Boris Johnson for The Telegraph.
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You now need to post something that explains why you think it's drivel. Otherwise all you've done is a drive-by ad hom, followed by objecting to a drive-by ad hom.
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