Scrutable

Published before he joined the Government, Mr Cummings hit out at the programme to build the carriers.

Calling the scheme a "farce", he added that MOD procurement specialists had "continued to squander billions of pounds, enriching some of the worst corporate looters and corrupting public life via the revolving door of officials/lobbyists".

"Scrutiny by our MPs has been contemptible. They have built platforms that already cannot be sent to a serious war against a serious enemy," wrote Mr Cummings, who is regarded as a key player in the election strategy that produced a victory for Mr Johnson.

He poured scorn on the quality of those overseeing the purchasing process, adding: "The officials in charge of multi-billion processes are mostly mediocre, often appalling."

plodder wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:52 pm Dominic Cummings thinks big chunks of the government are essentially incompetent and corrupt. He's got his sights set on MoD procurement for starters. I'm pretty sympathetic towards this, despite anything else I might think about him.

https://www.forces.net/news/defence-spe ... sons-radar

Published before he joined the Government, Mr Cummings hit out at the programme to build the carriers.

Calling the scheme a "farce", he added that MOD procurement specialists had "continued to squander billions of pounds, enriching some of the worst corporate looters and corrupting public life via the revolving door of officials/lobbyists".

"Scrutiny by our MPs has been contemptible. They have built platforms that already cannot be sent to a serious war against a serious enemy," wrote Mr Cummings, who is regarded as a key player in the election strategy that produced a victory for Mr Johnson.

He poured scorn on the quality of those overseeing the purchasing process, adding: "The officials in charge of multi-billion processes are mostly mediocre, often appalling."

plodder wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:39 pm why won't it probably won't?

do you know something we don't know?

GeenDienst wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:03 am The new government will be based in a possible meteorite impact site.

TopBadger wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:07 pm In addition to Dyqik's post - MOD procurement is also wasteful because:

1. We insist on generating UK specific designs for things (e.g. Rifles)
2. Where we do buy off the shelf we insist on retrofitting UK specific upgrades which takes an age (refitting Apache with RR engines and other mods comes to mind - took 9 years from signing the procurement to getting an operational Sqn)
3. We're not able to order in sufficient quantities to get volume discounts. Our military is pretty small.

1 and 2 are a consequence of trying to protect our local defence industries. 3 is a consequence of reducing the defence budget.

So unless the Tories willing to kill off UK industry and buy in bulk from overseas, I don't think anything Dom or anyone else comes up with will change this.

plodder wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:52 pm Dominic Cummings thinks big chunks of the government are essentially incompetent and corrupt. He's got his sights set on MoD procurement for starters. I'm pretty sympathetic towards this, despite anything else I might think about him.

https://www.forces.net/news/defence-spe ... sons-radar

Published before he joined the Government, Mr Cummings hit out at the programme to build the carriers.

Calling the scheme a "farce", he added that MOD procurement specialists had "continued to squander billions of pounds, enriching some of the worst corporate looters and corrupting public life via the revolving door of officials/lobbyists".

"Scrutiny by our MPs has been contemptible. They have built platforms that already cannot be sent to a serious war against a serious enemy," wrote Mr Cummings, who is regarded as a key player in the election strategy that produced a victory for Mr Johnson.

He poured scorn on the quality of those overseeing the purchasing process, adding: "The officials in charge of multi-billion processes are mostly mediocre, often appalling."

plodder wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:27 pm Bad procurement is about way more than the small gene pool of suppliers. I’m willing to bet there’s weak governance, piss poor scope definition (that’s not linked to any meaningful set of strategically aligned benefits), little-to-no contract management and no consequences if things go wrong.

All of these are pretty easy to fix if you’ve got enough clout.

plodder wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:27 pm Bad procurement is about way more than the small gene pool of suppliers. I’m willing to bet there’s weak governance, piss poor scope definition (that’s not linked to any meaningful set of strategically aligned benefits), little-to-no contract management and no consequences if things go wrong.

All of these are pretty easy to fix if you’ve got enough clout.

TopBadger wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:07 pm In addition to Dyqik's post - MOD procurement is also wasteful because:

1. We insist on generating UK specific designs for things (e.g. Rifles)
2. Where we do buy off the shelf we insist on retrofitting UK specific upgrades which takes an age (refitting Apache with RR engines and other mods comes to mind - took 9 years from signing the procurement to getting an operational Sqn)
3. We're not able to order in sufficient quantities to get volume discounts. Our military is pretty small.

1 and 2 are a consequence of trying to protect our local defence industries. 3 is a consequence of reducing the defence budget.

So unless the Tories willing to kill off UK industry and buy in bulk from overseas, I don't think anything Dom or anyone else comes up with will change this.

JQH wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:59 pm

GeenDienst wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:03 am The new government will be based in a possible meteorite impact site.

Past or future impact site?

GeenDienst wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:28 am Trouble is, that kind of scandal has no traction any more for the far right. It just makes him More Of A Lad and his base love it.