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Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by lpm » Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:42 am

Complete shock! Never seen women winning these things before. Is the male domination finally ending?

The BBC is leading with a lovely photo of the three women hugging each other. They certainly look happy to win.

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Haven't had time to read the actual article yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58787438
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by purplehaze » Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:48 am

So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.

I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.

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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by Fishnut » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm

That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by lpm » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:05 pm

Oh.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by purplehaze » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:06 pm

purplehaze wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:48 am
So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.

I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.

Sarcasm alert if anyone is in doubt.

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Post by Stephanie » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm
That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by Fishnut » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm

Stephanie wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Fishnut wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm
That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?
I thought as much but given people's tendencies to not follow links I thought I'd be explicit in what was going on.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by sheldrake » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm

How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?

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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by plodder » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?
Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.

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Post by sheldrake » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:34 pm

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Post by dyqik » Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:04 pm

plodder wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm
sheldrake wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?
Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.
The Washington Post uses He for David, and will likely have checked.

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Post by bmforre » Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:14 pm

From the awarding authority.

Yes, both winners are males.

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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by Grumble » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:25 pm

Literature or Peace?
You’ve got no chutzpah, your organisational skills are lacklustre and your timekeeping is abysmal.

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Post by jimbob » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm

Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Post by Boustrophedon » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:42 pm

jimbob wrote:
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Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Twice.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by Gfamily » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:53 pm

Boustrophedon wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:42 pm
jimbob wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm
Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Twice.
High achieving family
Mum and Dad won (mum twice), and two of their three children won as well. The husband of the third child accepted the Nobel prize on behalf of Unicef - which was nice.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:00 pm

Here’s a whole academic article on the subject: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0256-3

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Post by lpm » Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:33 am

Hang on a sec, I'll just go and check which women won the physics one, be right back.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by lpm » Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:18 am

Chemistry day.

My hopes are high.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by headshot » Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:33 am

You should all have known LPM was trolling the minute they posted a link...

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Post by lpm » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm

I've missed a few days in which, no doubt, hundreds of women won.

Chemistry - nope
Literature - nope
Economics - nope
Peace - OH MY GOD DO MY EYES DECEIVE ME

Final score: 12-1.
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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!

Post by IvanV » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm

lpm wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm
Economics - nope
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.

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Post by monkey » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm

IvanV wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm
lpm wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm
Economics - nope
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?

Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.

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Post by IvanV » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:11 pm

monkey wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.

So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?

Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
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OK. I read some paper that claimed that Economics prizes were the most biased against women, doing some complicated stats. But it seems not borne out by this simple metric.

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