TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:33 am
Is anyone else thinking this is highly interesting timing, what with a Met investigation of No 10 ongoing?
Seems to be Sadiq Khan who's given her the push, but it doesn't seem like the home office were prepared to try to overrule him as they sometimes do.
Obviously it partly depends who she's replaced with, but given her tolerance for corruption it's hard to see how getting rid of her helps the government.
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TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:33 am
Is anyone else thinking this is highly interesting timing, what with a Met investigation of No 10 ongoing?
In this case, not particularly.
Sadiq Khan just showed his power - and he's no friend of Johnson.
The Home Secretary etc thought Dick was staying, but Khan said that Dick's plan for changing the culture was too slow - he'd given her a warning, and saw her response, which was inadequate, so he told her he no longer had confidence in her.
Given her recent* record, that seems more than reasonable of Khan.
*And earlier
Heard some moron on Ian Dale’s show last night saying it was a publicity stunt and she should have been left in place to finish what she started cleaning up the force. A similar tack to Johnson’s defenders.
TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:33 am
Is anyone else thinking this is highly interesting timing, what with a Met investigation of No 10 ongoing?
In this case, not particularly.
Sadiq Khan just showed his power - and he's no friend of Johnson.
The Home Secretary etc thought Dick was staying, but Khan said that Dick's plan for changing the culture was too slow - he'd given her a warning, and saw her response, which was inadequate, so he told her he no longer had confidence in her.
Given her recent* record, that seems more than reasonable of Khan.
*And earlier
Heard some moron on Ian Dale’s show last night saying it was a publicity stunt and she should have been left in place to finish what she started cleaning up the force. A similar tack to Johnson’s defenders.
I mean it is good that the firsi openly-gay woman Met Police Commissioner was appalled by homophobia and misogyny, but the latest revelations weren't surprising news to anyone who had been paying attention. That there was such a clear record, however, was a bit surprising.
Similarly, we know that Dick had obstructed the report that found the Met to be institutionally corrupt, which in itself should have been a resigning matter.
The claims that the Met Police rank and file respect and like her, is not actually that good when it has a now-acknowledged culture of bigotry and corruption.
I have to say, it's to Khan's credit that he acted so quickly on this. Dick just wasn't able to see the problems in the Met and the change needed to deal with them.
TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:33 am
Is anyone else thinking this is highly interesting timing, what with a Met investigation of No 10 ongoing?
In this case, not particularly.
Sadiq Khan just showed his power - and he's no friend of Johnson.
The Home Secretary etc thought Dick was staying, but Khan said that Dick's plan for changing the culture was too slow - he'd given her a warning, and saw her response, which was inadequate, so he told her he no longer had confidence in her.
Given her recent* record, that seems more than reasonable of Khan.
*And earlier
Worth remembering that one of the first things Johnson did as mayor of London was to get rid of the then Met Commissioner, IIRC.
No wine and cheese at Chequers, dear plebs, only our illustrious leaders are allowed to gather and party. Genuinely from TVP Aylesbury Facebook feed (apologies for no link but tired brain can't make it work and it would be to fb anyway as they don't seem to have shared on twitter, but below pic is the main part of the posting).
It is receiving the comments you might expect, such as
What if we have cake?? Is the “Ambushed by Cake” exemption not in effect?
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monkey wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:48 pm
It's all gone a bit quiet on this hasn't it?
He got away with it didn't he?
I think today was the deadline for responding to those police questionnaires. So there would be no charges yet.
Given these fix-penalty offences arise from (necessarily) hastily-passed law, I would imagine it might not be too hard, given a lot of will, money spent on legal counsel, and possibly favourable treatment by the police, to avoid a charge.
monkey wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:48 pm
It's all gone a bit quiet on this hasn't it?
He got away with it didn't he?
They're making it as easy as possible for them, with the questionnaire fillers allowed to see the contents of the Sue Grey Report that relates to them.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
Bird on a Fire wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:28 pm
I suspect there'll be a few more parties in number 10 soon.
When he gets away with it?
The only group of people who can get him out are Conservative MP's... that's been the case since the beginning. For a party known for their electoral ruthlessness you wonder how much more of a liability he can become before they give him the boot.
Bird on a Fire wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:28 pm
I suspect there'll be a few more parties in number 10 soon.
When he gets away with it?
The only group of people who can get him out are Conservative MP's... that's been the case since the beginning. For a party known for their electoral ruthlessness you wonder how much more of a liability he can become before they give him the boot.
Well yeah but there isn't an election any time soon and he'll be riding high on the bounty of covid freedom.
At least 85% of Tory MPs have been sufficiently fine with all this to let the moment pass. I don't see the secret outcome of the Met's questionnaires changing anything.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
Bird on a Fire wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:28 pm
I suspect there'll be a few more parties in number 10 soon.
When he gets away with it?
The only group of people who can get him out are Conservative MP's... that's been the case since the beginning. For a party known for their electoral ruthlessness you wonder how much more of a liability he can become before they give him the boot.
Well yeah but there isn't an election any time soon and he'll be riding high on the bounty of covid freedom.
At least 85% of Tory MPs have been sufficiently fine with all this to let the moment pass. I don't see the secret outcome of the Met's questionnaires changing anything.
It does seem that today's announcement is very happily timed for BoJo.
How the backbenches respond to the police fine and un-redacted Gray report will be key, but I think all this has already been 'priced in' to some extent now, and it will dragged out long enough that only a few embers of white hot anger will be left. Those of us that want him gone will be hoping that his enemies have a lot more damaging material to come out and restoke those fires.
TopBadger wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:18 pm
When he gets away with it?
The only group of people who can get him out are Conservative MP's... that's been the case since the beginning. For a party known for their electoral ruthlessness you wonder how much more of a liability he can become before they give him the boot.
Well yeah but there isn't an election any time soon and he'll be riding high on the bounty of covid freedom.
At least 85% of Tory MPs have been sufficiently fine with all this to let the moment pass. I don't see the secret outcome of the Met's questionnaires changing anything.
It does seem that today's announcement is very happily timed for BoJo.
How the backbenches respond to the police fine and un-redacted Gray report will be key, but I think all this has already been 'priced in' to some extent now, and it will dragged out long enough that only a few embers of white hot anger will be left. Those of us that want him gone will be hoping that his enemies have a lot more damaging material to come out and restoke those fires.
Johnson is famously fond of Churchill having rewritten someone else's words into a biography of him. So he should understand the need to get rid of a poor leader during a war.
Well yeah but there isn't an election any time soon and he'll be riding high on the bounty of covid freedom.
At least 85% of Tory MPs have been sufficiently fine with all this to let the moment pass. I don't see the secret outcome of the Met's questionnaires changing anything.
It does seem that today's announcement is very happily timed for BoJo.
How the backbenches respond to the police fine and un-redacted Gray report will be key, but I think all this has already been 'priced in' to some extent now, and it will dragged out long enough that only a few embers of white hot anger will be left. Those of us that want him gone will be hoping that his enemies have a lot more damaging material to come out and restoke those fires.
Johnson is famously fond of Churchill having rewritten someone else's words into a biography of him. So he should understand the need to get rid of a poor leader during a war.
Jim Parkin
Replying to @Dr2NisreenAlwanAs I have said elsewhere, as Johnson seems to want to invoke wartime. After the fiasco of the Norway Campaign in 1940, Chamberlain's government fell.
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But for some reason Boris had not only failed to read the email, he had totally forgotten there had been a party arranged for that evening. So when he had wandered outside with Carrie, he had been totally baffled to discover the garden of No 10 full of people, along with trestle tables weighed down with food and drink. Obviously he had been too polite to ask what everyone was doing there, so he just went along with it. As you do. And it goes without saying that it had also completely slipped the Suspect’s mind that he had introduced legislation preventing people socialising and that parties were illegal.
Now it gets positively spooky. Because the same thing kept happening time and time again and each time the prime minister forgot about the pandemic. There were at least 12 parties in Downing Street – Johnson attended at least six of them – and the Suspect was somehow convinced that no parties had ever taken place. And, bizarrely, still is.
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