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An interesting article mentioned on Language Log:

"Bosom peril" is not "breast cancer": How weird computer-generated phrases help researchers find scientific publishing fraud.

It is a couple of months old, but don't think it was discussed here before. The title is pretty self-explanatory - the use of automated tools for disguising acts of plagiarism results in obviously weird phrases. Despite that, such papers are still getting through and get published.
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I remember being struck by the phrase "flag commotion" in a discussion of fake papers here last year. (It was a distortion of "signal to noise".)
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And Water Sheep, but I think that might have been a mistranslation in good faith.
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basementer wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:29 pm I remember being struck by the phrase "flag commotion" in a discussion of fake papers here last year. (It was a distortion of "signal to noise".)
The same author as mentioned by Language Log, Guillaume Cabanac.
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basementer wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:43 pm
basementer wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:29 pm I remember being struck by the phrase "flag commotion" in a discussion of fake papers here last year. (It was a distortion of "signal to noise".)
The same author as mentioned by Language Log, Guillaume Cabanac.
viewtopic.php?p=91127#p91127
Ah, I had a feeling it had been touched upon here before but couldn't find it.
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It's quite entertaining to look at some of Cabanac's examples.
"a joint endeavor in the savvy lattice field"
rather reminds me of Poul Anderson's "uncleftish beholding" for "atomic theory", which LW mentioned a couple of months ago.
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basementer wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:45 pm "a joint endeavor in the savvy lattice field"
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I've just spent 10 mins thinking the topic title is Boson Peril, and wondering how upon earth it got paired with breast cancer.
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IvanV wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:05 pm I've just spent 10 mins thinking the topic title is Boson Peril, and wondering how upon earth it got paired with breast cancer.
Bosons would come in pairs.
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