Boustrophedon wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:48 pm
I disagree with the argument, with the very idea, that he has an overwhelming mandate from the people, in point of fact he does not, except in the sense of an election result two and a half years ago, but that was then and this is now.
This argument has been posited by both the long Victorian streak of piss, Rees-Mogg and Johnson himself. Rees-Mogg has even described it as a transition to a more 'presidential' style of Prime minister.
This is not how our democracy works. We voted for a local candidate, not Boris. Then the winning side chooses a Prime Minister. We didn't choose him.
The idea of a presidential Prime Minister perhaps fed to him by Mogg, feeds directly into his over inflated sense of self worth and ego, no wonder the deluded idiot thinks he has reason to stay on, even in the face of revolt from his own party.
He probably also erroneously thinks he owns the Tories in the same way that Trump owns the GOP
We’ve just had another resignation- I think it’s 39 now
Amusing to see various outlets running with the line that Johnson will commit to hang-on because to leave now would result in "chaos".
Yes because the last 6 months have been an exemplary period of sensible, stable governance and calm understated competence.
This place is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here, nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
Boustrophedon wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:48 pm
I disagree with the argument, with the very idea, that he has an overwhelming mandate from the people, in point of fact he does not, except in the sense of an election result two and a half years ago, but that was then and this is now.
This argument has been posited by both the long Victorian streak of piss, Rees-Mogg and Johnson himself. Rees-Mogg has even described it as a transition to a more 'presidential' style of Prime minister.
This is not how our democracy works. We voted for a local candidate, not Boris. Then the winning side chooses a Prime Minister. We didn't choose him.
The idea of a presidential Prime Minister perhaps fed to him by Mogg, feeds directly into his over inflated sense of self worth and ego, no wonder the deluded idiot thinks he has reason to stay on, even in the face of revolt from his own party.
He probably also erroneously thinks he owns the Tories in the same way that Trump owns the GOP
We’ve just had another resignation- I think it’s 39 now
Little waster wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:57 pm
Amusing to see various outlets running with the line that Johnson will commit to hang-on because to leave now would result in "chaos".
Yes because the last 6 months have been an exemplary period of sensible, stable governance and calm understated competence.
Looks like we’re back to the hypotheticals about what happens if the PM evidently doesn’t command the confidence of the House, but refuses to leave 10 Downing Street.
At some point bits of the British state may have to ignore the formal hierarchy. My bet would be the Scottish administration first.
Woodchopper wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:00 pm
Reports that he has refused to resign.
Looks like we’re back to the hypotheticals about what happens if the PM evidently doesn’t command the confidence of the House, but refuses to leave 10 Downing Street.
At some point bits of the British state may have to ignore the formal hierarchy. My bet would be the Scottish administration first.
Did anyone think he'd go willingly? He said he was going to stay to the 2030's and probably believed it
What!!! Not THE Simon Hart who we'd all heard of???
Thing is, Johnson could have rehabilitated his image over time. Like Theresa May has. Could easily have pushed "I'd have been great if only it hadn't been for damned Covid spoiling my marvellous agenda."
lpm wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:44 pm
What!!! Not THE Simon Hart who we'd all heard of???
Thing is, Johnson could have rehabilitated his image over time. Like Theresa May has. Could easily have pushed "I'd have been great if only it hadn't been for damned Covid spoiling my marvellous agenda."
Yes that one!
He iswas a cabinet minister though. Welsh Sec apparently.
lpm wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm
My god, Braverman says she's running for leader.
Delusional, the lot of 'em.
There’s another whelk stall that would be engulfed in flames before lunchtime.
This place is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here, nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
