Since Ms Hutchinson's testimony, a source close to the Secret Service has told CBS News that both the agent and driver travelling in the car with Mr Trump were willing to testify under oath that the former president did not physically attack either of them and never attempted to grab the steering wheel.
BBC
Up to you whether you go with, "well they w'd say that wun't they" or "well, actually, that's exactly why they don't allow reports of unsworn interlocutors in a courtroom"
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If you want me Steve, just Snapchat me yeah? You know how to Snapchap me doncha Steve? You just...
Since Ms Hutchinson's testimony, a source close to the Secret Service has told CBS News that both the agent and driver travelling in the car with Mr Trump were willing to testify under oath that the former president did not physically attack either of them and never attempted to grab the steering wheel.
BBC
Up to you whether you go with, "well they w'd say that wun't they" or "well, actually, that's exactly why they don't allow reports of unsworn interlocutors in a courtroom"
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Exactly. We have:
1) Person under threat of criminal perjury states that she was told by Person C that Person B had been attacked by Trump (told in the presence of Person B who remained silent but looked stressed). Some reporting suggests that Persons B and C have already confirmed this to the committee in closed door testimony under oath but even if they haven’t their boss has officially confirmed they will testify if requested to.
2) A reporter not under threat of criminal perjury says that an anonymous source told them that Person B and Person C had said there was no attack but that Trump was irate and pressured them to take him to the Capitol.
3) BTW Person under oath said she heard Trump himself try to get his armed supporters to the Capitol shortly before he publicly told his supporters to go to the Capitol and fight like Hell.
Since Ms Hutchinson's testimony, a source close to the Secret Service has told CBS News that both the agent and driver travelling in the car with Mr Trump were willing to testify under oath that the former president did not physically attack either of them and never attempted to grab the steering wheel.
BBC
Up to you whether you go with, "well they w'd say that wun't they" or "well, actually, that's exactly why they don't allow reports of unsworn interlocutors in a courtroom"
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Exactly. We have:
1) Person under threat of criminal perjury states that she was told by Person C that Person B had been attacked by Trump (told in the presence of Person B who remained silent but looked stressed). Some reporting suggests that Persons B and C have already confirmed this to the committee in closed door testimony under oath but even if they haven’t their boss has officially confirmed they will testify if requested to.
2) A reporter not under threat of criminal perjury says that an anonymous source told them that Person B and Person C had said there was no attack but that Trump was irate and pressured them to take him to the Capitol.
3) BTW Person under oath said she heard Trump himself try to get his armed supporters to the Capitol shortly before he publicly told his supporters to go to the Capitol and fight like Hell.
Yeah this secret service agent who is (possibly because it’s via an anonymous source) disputing the stuff about the steering wheel but not AR15s is a Trump loyalist
Bird on a Fire wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:40 pm
Nuts that all this is only coming out now, rather than during the impeachment.
Well the Jan 6 insurrection was on…..errr…Jan 6 and the impeachment was triggered on 25th Jan so it’s not surprising that some stuff has taken so long to come out. I understand the Jan 6 Committee has done around 5000 interviews and the DOJ has charged over 800 people so it’s been quite the information gathering exercise. And of course the Republicans were running interference all along because they are scared of Trump while Trump himself installed loyalists (eg Ortano) all over the place to f.ck up as much as they could.
The entire process seems to be designed to point out every bit of douchebaggery that came out of the whole pass flavored cotton candy guy's political machine whilst carefully avoiding doing anything about it
Holy sh.t. Apparently after the last hearing Trump still tried to contact a witness (one we haven’t seen yet) and the details have been passed to the DOJ. At the end of the last hearing Cheney basically warned the Trumpers off doing that and he did it anyway.
Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:01 pm
Holy sh.t. Apparently after the last hearing Trump still tried to contact a witness (one we haven’t seen yet) and the details have been passed to the DOJ. At the end of the last hearing Cheney basically warned the Trumpers off doing that and he did it anyway.
Apparently they tried to contact Cassidy Hutchinson via a cutout but Trump tried to contact this witness (a member of the White House support staff with whom he had no normal contact) himself. It looks like it could be about the ketchup on the wall incident? How does he not realise how guilty of witness intimidation this makes him look? And has he run out of people to do his dirty work for him?
Stranger Mouse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:01 pm
Holy sh.t. Apparently after the last hearing Trump still tried to contact a witness (one we haven’t seen yet) and the details have been passed to the DOJ. At the end of the last hearing Cheney basically warned the Trumpers off doing that and he did it anyway.
Apparently they tried to contact Cassidy Hutchinson via a cutout but Trump tried to contact this witness (a member of the White House support staff with whom he had no normal contact) himself. It looks like it could be about the ketchup on the wall incident? How does he not realise how guilty of witness intimidation this makes him look? And has he run out of people to do his dirty work for him?
"Day of the Rope" is from the Turner Diaries, an utterly despicable piece of white-supremacist and antisemitic "literature" that is popular with the extreme right in the States.
Video thread that can be read from the top but this particular tweet if of an anonymised security pro saying that Secret Service agents protecting Pence were sending messages to their families in case they didn’t survive.
They start work late there!
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