US 2021 Capitol insurrection
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Is you taking notes on a criminal f.cking conspiracy?
https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/15 ... EMVIIiDyDw
https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/15 ... EMVIIiDyDw
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Man, having Trump as president really emboldened dipshits.
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used british english 'alternative' rather than merkin english 'alternate': obvious fake by someone on this side of the water (or from here over there) (or maybe Wilenchick is from over here) (or maybe
Interesting use of british english 'alternative' rather than merkin english 'alternate'
Interesting use of british english 'alternative' rather than merkin english 'alternate'
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Maybe he’s just not very good https://www.newsweek.com/cyber-ninjas-a ... id-1663824tenchboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:58 amused british english 'alternative' rather than merkin english 'alternate': obvious fake by someone on this side of the water (or from here over there) (or maybe Wilenchick is from over here) (or maybe
Interesting use of british english 'alternative' rather than merkin english 'alternate'
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Fantastic interview. “I was swept along by people pushing in the crowd until I found myself in the building” https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/stat ... 2s4HXCdSrQ
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It's not clear whether this is J6th or stealing secret documents related yet, but it seems the FBI raided Mar-A-Lago with a warrant to search Trump's safe.
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Destroying presidential documents could be relatively easy to prove and bar him from office. Fingers crossed.
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Read this Popehat thread from the top but this got my attention. Worth noting Popehat nearly always plays this stuff down
https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1556 ... XnSeJPUnSA
I keep coming back to this: based on the stuff they HAVEN'T gone after, either this is the greatest overplayed hand ever or there is something very dramatic we don't know about.
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I don’t think that’s correct. As far as I know the only legal impediments to becoming president are being under 35, not being a natural born citizen, not having lived in the US for 14 years, having been impeached, or having been found guilty of rebellion.
I doubt that removing documents would prevent Trump politically. The MAGA crowd wouldn’t care.
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It seems to be a matter of some debate:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/us/p ... l-law.htmlBecause Mr. Trump is widely believed to be preparing to run for president again in 2024, that unusual penalty raised the prospect that he might be legally barred from returning to the White House.
Specifically, the law in question — Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code — makes it a crime if someone who has custody of government documents or records “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” them.
If convicted, defendants can be fined or sentenced to prison for up to three years. In addition, the statute says, if they are currently in a federal office, they “shall forfeit” that office, and they shall “be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
On its face, then, if Mr. Trump were to be charged and convicted of removing, concealing or destroying government records under that law, he would seem to be ineligible to become president again.
But there was reason for caution: The law briefly received a close look in 2015, after it came to light that Hillary Clinton, then widely anticipated to be the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, had used a private email server to conduct government business while secretary of state.
Some Republicans were briefly entranced with whether the law could keep Mrs. Clinton out of the White House, including Michael Mukasey, a former attorney general in the administration of George W. Bush. So was at least one conservative think tank.
But in considering that situation, several legal scholars — including Seth B. Tillman of Maynouth University in Ireland and Eugene Volokh of the University of California, Los Angeles — noted that the Constitution sets eligibility criteria for who can be president, and argued that Supreme Court rulings suggest Congress cannot alter them. The Constitution allows Congress to disqualify people from holding office in impeachment proceedings, but grants no such power for ordinary criminal law.
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The warrant that is linked to on yer own linky there mentions financial papers and tax returns of paul mannafort items connected with cypriot bank accounts records of june 9th 2016 meeting at trump tower evidence of manaforts state of mindStranger Mouse wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:25 am
Read this Popehat thread from the top but this got my attention. Worth noting Popehat nearly always plays this stuff down
https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1556 ... XnSeJPUnSA
etc
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Incredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
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There’s just so many options on my bingo card.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 pmIncredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
I think I’m going with a banker of “fraudulently claiming hush-money paid to sex workers as legitimate business expenses” permed with “distributing naked images of Alex Jones wife without consent” and “giving nuclear codes to known FSB operatives in exchange for a family-sized bucket of fried chicken products” and a wild-card of “illegal possession of endangered animal organs for the ineffective treatment of sexual dysfunction”.
TBF nothing and we mean nothing is off the table here.
This place is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here, nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
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If he’s worried he can always take his mind off the situation by thinking about how an appeals court has just granted the Ways And Means Committee access to his tax returns. https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/ ... JxGaH6QbvgLittle waster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:24 pmThere’s just so many options on my bingo card.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 pmIncredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
I think I’m going with a banker of “fraudulently claiming hush-money paid to sex workers as legitimate business expenses” permed with “distributing naked images of Alex Jones wife without consent” and “giving nuclear codes to known FSB operatives in exchange for a family-sized bucket of fried chicken products” and a wild-card of “illegal possession of endangered animal organs for the ineffective treatment of sexual dysfunction”.
TBF nothing and we mean nothing is off the table here.
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Meanwhile, the GOPs position is "imagine, if they can get warrants to search a billionaire* former President's house, they could get a warrant to search your house!"Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 pmIncredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
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I believe this ideal is called nobody being above the law.dyqik wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:45 pmMeanwhile, the GOPs position is "imagine, if they can get warrants to search a billionaire* former President's house, they could get a warrant to search your house!"Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 pmIncredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
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Obviously trump didn't have enough guns to defend himself from federal government overreach.
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I better start shredding them classified documents I stole after being President that one time.dyqik wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:45 pmMeanwhile, the GOPs position is "imagine, if they can get warrants to search a billionaire* former President's house, they could get a warrant to search your house!"Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 pmIncredible when you think about it. Not only is the FBI raiding a former president's property, we don't even know which of his many crimes it's for.
I can't tell if they are grifting by scaring people into donating money, or they actually think they are above the law. I am assuming both until proven otherwise.
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I'm struggling to understand what he would keep and why. Something that could be used as blackmail material?
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It's known that he took classified documents that he did not declassify while in office.
Quite possibly it includes documents describing his own actions - e.g. that several hour chat with Putin.
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I reckon The White House knows an awful lot of things that might be useful to someone who claims to be a billionaire.
But I wouldn't discount him simply being a spoilt man child who kept things just because he thought they were his.
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I know Trump isn't the smartest guy, but if he wanted to hide something incriminating or embarrassing why keep it in a safe at his house rather than burning it.
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Or flush it down the toilet.
Edit: Actually, there's probably pictures because he didn't flush.
Edit: Actually, there's probably pictures because he didn't flush.
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There are reportedly pictures of exactly that.
I can't attest to their authenticity, though, being too busy with war monitoring, an adolescent cat, and back spasms.