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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by dyqik » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:02 pm

Utter b.llsh.t, of course. Funny how they only manage to name one signatory, an emeritus professor who won a Nobel prize jointly with Brian Josephson for quantum tunneling in superconducting devices, and who has never worked on anything related to climate science. Note that my colleague, Bob Wilson, who won a Nobel prize for measuring temperatures accurately at large distances (discovering the CMB), and for measuring infrared spectral lines at large distances (discovering carbon monoxide in molecular clouds), both of which are relevant to climate science and remote sensing, takes the opposite view to him.

It appears to be modeling itself on the Great Barrington Declaration, which was also proven to be b.llsh.t.

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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by individualmember » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:33 pm

I have put a reply where I saw this to the effect that the opinion of someone who happens to be a scientist but is speaking about something with no connection with their specialism is about the same as the opinion of any old bloke in the pub.

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Post by Little waster » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:00 pm

The UK list is as depressingly familiar and underwhelming as ever:-
1. Christopher The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, Peer of the Realm and Author of
several NO reviewed papers on Climate; WCD Ambassador
- random italicisation in original
10. Richard Courtney, Retired Material Scientist, Expert Peer Reviewer of the IPCC (no he isn't, the lying sh.t-bag)
16. Roderick Paul Eaton, MBA FIET MCMI, Retired Consultant Energy Industry Analyst/Management Consultant
20. Delphine Gray-Fisk, Former airline pilot, and parliamentary candidate for both the UK Independence Party and Brexit Party
28. Alex Henney, Formerly London Electricity Board, Consultant on Electricity Matters
46. Michael J. Rath, Professional Forrester
54. Leslie Thomson, Retired Vice President Operations, BP Exploration, Aberdeen
55. Matthew D. Waggener, Financial professional, strategic consultant on business investments
Well I'm convinced.

I'm guessing with the Summer we are having AGW-scepticism is looking even ropier than usual.
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by IvanV » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:12 pm

Little waster wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:00 pm
The UK list is as depressingly familiar and underwhelming as ever:-
1. Christopher The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, Peer of the Realm and Author of
several NO reviewed papers on Climate; WCD Ambassador
- random italicisation in original
The original wording is quite correct. It claims only that they were reviewed - as indeed they were, very thoroughly and negatively. It does not claim they were peer-reviewed. The only peer here is the author, not the reviewers, and he cares not about being shown to be wrong. He continues his peeing nevertheless.

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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Chris Preston » Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:35 am

There are a lot of retired geologists and engineers on the list.

My favourite though has to be John Warnock number 127 in the list from Australia. His expertise? "Asto-Economists".

For those who have not to deal with this profession before, Asto-Economists predict the stock market decisions using astrology.
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Post by IvanV » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:31 am

Chris Preston wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:35 am
There are a lot of retired geologists and engineers on the list.
There's something about some of the old and clever, that they suffer particularly strongly from the well-recorded syndrome of being convinced of something despite the strength of the evidence against it. They are both clever enough to find self-deceiving "explanations" of the contrary evidence, and stubborn enough they can't easily live with the idea they might have been wrong all this time. And doubtless they like to think that they are still the clever ones, and the young generation is foolish.

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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Gfamily » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:00 am

That's a Toby Young site, a renaming of his Lockdown Sceptics blog.
In its original incarnation, it was regularly found to be misrepresenting the data, and it seems to be consistent in that regard
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview ... -morrison/

It being a Toby Young site doesn't make it wrong, but it means it needs a sceptical approach taken to any of its claims. It's what he'd want.
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:14 pm

Seems an odd time to launch a climate denial gambit, right in the middle of loads of record droughts, fires and floods.

Still, I guess these desperate losers were never the smartest.
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Little waster » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:11 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:14 pm
Seems an odd time to launch a climate denial gambit, right in the middle of loads of record droughts, fires and floods.
I think that's exactly why they've launched it now, with AGW literally happening outside people's windows there only option is to attempt to gaslight the public and hope enough useful idiots join in to encourage another 6 months of inertia and burn through another couple of ppm of safety margin and add another million or so onto the final death toll.
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Bird on a Fire » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:00 am

Still, lots of value for shareholders.
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Little waster » Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:58 am

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:00 am
Still, lots of value for shareholders.
And as they can all huddle around fires built of their share certificates when the time comes.

Spoiler:
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Re: Anyone know anything about this climate stuff

Post by Gfamily » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:13 am

Little waster wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:58 am
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:00 am
Still, lots of value for shareholders.
And as they can all huddle around fires built of their share certificates when the time comes.

Spoiler:
Which will be carbon neutral when burned. I bet that irony will burn!
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