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Anyone know (with reputable source - a very quick google gets blogs and peta, wiki doesn't mention it) what proportion of leather (shoes fashion etc) is sourced from dairy/meat byproduct and how much is farmed specifically (eg fur farming which is from where this question arose).
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Not data or links, but I can tell you that raw cowhides in New England currently sell for $20 each.
These hides would usually go to China to be tanned and made into leather goods; the price before tariffs killed the market was $60 per hide.
At either of those prices I would suggest the proportion of cattle, at least, grown specifically for leather rather than meat or dairy must be very, very small.
These hides would usually go to China to be tanned and made into leather goods; the price before tariffs killed the market was $60 per hide.
At either of those prices I would suggest the proportion of cattle, at least, grown specifically for leather rather than meat or dairy must be very, very small.
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Guardian article here suggests that it's currently mostly a meat/dairy by-product, but that global projected demand might be set to outstrip what is provided by the livestock industry. Doesn't cite its sources though. Https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/201 ... ucy-siegle
This leather retailer also says the hides come from livestock, and that hides are only 5% of an animal's value. https://mahileather.com/blogs/news/wher ... -come-from
This leather retailer also says the hides come from livestock, and that hides are only 5% of an animal's value. https://mahileather.com/blogs/news/wher ... -come-from
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I hadn't realised that "genuine leather" is actually the lowest quality grade of leather (until I watched a few YouTube videos about fancy watches).
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I was in that M&S recently, looking to replace my worn out black office shoes. They had expensive ones and cheap ones, so being me, I chose cheap (under £30).
Normally I would beep and go, but there was a long queue so l looked at the label. There was a prominent 'leather' symbol, but on closer inspection it had a small 'x' beside it to indicate no leather was used. The uppers appear to be made of plastic-coated cardboard.
I didn't buy them as I want leather, but it occurred to me that with the rise of trainers as the standard form of footwear (all synthetic), a major source of demand for leather must be dwindling fast
Normally I would beep and go, but there was a long queue so l looked at the label. There was a prominent 'leather' symbol, but on closer inspection it had a small 'x' beside it to indicate no leather was used. The uppers appear to be made of plastic-coated cardboard.
I didn't buy them as I want leather, but it occurred to me that with the rise of trainers as the standard form of footwear (all synthetic), a major source of demand for leather must be dwindling fast
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Leather? I've done the odd bit. These hats, for example. I gave the short one to P. Z. Meyers.
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Best motorcycle leathers are made from Kangaroo hide. Am I right in thinking they're a bit of a pest in Oz?
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They are certainly very abundant. There's a cemetery in Perth which is full of the things. They like eating the flowers that are left on the memorial markers.
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Yes, bikie gangs are very much a pest in Oz.
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Interesting, thanks. I hadn't realised that Patent Leather actually contained any leather. I assumed it was entirely synthetic.shpalman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:57 amI hadn't realised that "genuine leather" is actually the lowest quality grade of leather (until I watched a few YouTube videos about fancy watches).
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I always find the antipodean word, "bikie" to sound remarkably non-threatening for a bunch of violent gangs.
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Therfe is a Leather Museum in Walsall, was once a centre for the leather trade, harness and saddles for horses mostly, worht a visit if you ever find yourself in Walsall with a couple of spare hours.
https://go.walsall.gov.uk/leathermuseum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsall_Leather_Museum
https://go.walsall.gov.uk/leathermuseum
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As a vegetarian, I reckon that if an animal is going to be killed for people to use, the people are obliged to use every possible piece. Yep, leather all the way for me.
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Kangaroo hide does something peculiar when it gets wet, that is it dries out again unchanged, unlike any other leather. I have an indestructible hat made of it, which was the first present my wife bought me.P.J. Denyer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:14 pmOr goat, they're both particularly resistant to tears and abrasion.
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Lots of trainers are still leather/suede. I bought some Adidas recently that are leather, as are my cheaper Londsdale ones I wear in the gym. Don't forget leather belts and bags - I wonder if the market for those has changed.rockdoctor wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:41 amit occurred to me that with the rise of trainers as the standard form of footwear (all synthetic), a major source of demand for leather must be dwindling fast
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I came across this which has some unhelpful numbers. As well as belts and bags there's furniture, and *cars* which must account for a fair amount of use (although it's hard for me to gauge, really, but a single-leather seat-covered car must account for several hides).Tessa K wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:37 pmLots of trainers are still leather/suede. I bought some Adidas recently that are leather, as are my cheaper Londsdale ones I wear in the gym. Don't forget leather belts and bags - I wonder if the market for those has changed.rockdoctor wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:41 amit occurred to me that with the rise of trainers as the standard form of footwear (all synthetic), a major source of demand for leather must be dwindling fast
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And of course the leather weight lifting gloves I wear in the gym - they're getting hard to find now.username wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:55 pmI came across this which has some unhelpful numbers. As well as belts and bags there's furniture, and *cars* which must account for a fair amount of use (although it's hard for me to gauge, really, but a single-leather seat-covered car must account for several hides).Tessa K wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:37 pmLots of trainers are still leather/suede. I bought some Adidas recently that are leather, as are my cheaper Londsdale ones I wear in the gym. Don't forget leather belts and bags - I wonder if the market for those has changed.rockdoctor wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:41 amit occurred to me that with the rise of trainers as the standard form of footwear (all synthetic), a major source of demand for leather must be dwindling fast
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You may have found a substitute glove already, but sailing gloves might be worth a look if not- a bit like cycling gloves, but less padding and although they're still "fingerless" they extend almost to the second knuckle.
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I understand that a Rolls Royce uses about eight hides (from doing an item about Connolly leather a while back).
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My long leather coat weighs so much it must have a whole cow's worth in it.individualmember wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:43 amI understand that a Rolls Royce uses about eight hides (from doing an item about Connolly leather a while back).
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Try adding Kevlar to the coat.Tessa K wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:03 pmMy long leather coat weighs so much it must have a whole cow's worth in it.individualmember wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:43 amI understand that a Rolls Royce uses about eight hides (from doing an item about Connolly leather a while back).
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Not much need for that down the pub, even in Camden.
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I doubt my son agrees, after being set upon, outside The Roundhouse
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