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Can anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
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I suspect it was because she was speaking with the voice of a woman...discovolante wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:09 pmCan anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
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it's okay to say "I don't know"
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... who doesn’t know her place.headshot wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:10 pmI suspect it was because she was speaking with the voice of a woman...discovolante wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:09 pmCan anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
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He's very good.Fishnut wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:55 pmI think Nish Kumar has a good suggestion
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That is a really low comment. If your first choice of response is "Patronising" then a) don't speak and b) go away and have a good long look at yourself and take that moment to see what you've become (and it isn't nice).discovolante wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:09 pmCan anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
"Hey Matt, not long now, you'll sound just like the president of the USA. Practice saying "that's a nasty question" in front of the mirror and you'll get there in no time."
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I think Hancock has been treated worse than any President since Lincoln.FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:54 pmThat is a really low comment. If your first choice of response is "Patronising" then a) don't speak and b) go away and have a good long look at yourself and take that moment to see what you've become (and it isn't nice).discovolante wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:09 pmCan anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
"Hey Matt, not long now, you'll sound just like the president of the USA. Practice saying "that's a nasty question" in front of the mirror and you'll get there in no time."
Also - Nish is brilliant.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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I reckon it was because she made mention of manipulating the testing numbers. The truth hurts.
(Doctor who works on front line in A&E gets understandable angry while talking about breaking bad news to families and our woefully poor testing regime which is partly to blame for that happening so often. Man responsible for lack of testing asks her to watch her tone... Not good optics at all.)
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She didn't seem angry thoughraven wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:51 pmI reckon it was because she made mention of manipulating the testing numbers. The truth hurts.
(Doctor who works on front line in A&E gets understandable angry while talking about breaking bad news to families and our woefully poor testing regime which is partly to blame for that happening so often. Man responsible for lack of testing asks her to watch her tone... Not good optics at all.)
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The Tories seem to have decided that any question that isn't designed to flatter the Tory it is aimed at is somehow inappropriate and rude.tom p wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 3:53 pmShe didn't seem angry thoughraven wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:51 pmI reckon it was because she made mention of manipulating the testing numbers. The truth hurts.
(Doctor who works on front line in A&E gets understandable angry while talking about breaking bad news to families and our woefully poor testing regime which is partly to blame for that happening so often. Man responsible for lack of testing asks her to watch her tone... Not good optics at all.)
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Her questioning was sharp, while the answering fell flat.discovolante wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:09 pmCan anyone say what the issue might be with her tone here? Was this a Q and A where leading questions aren't allowed?
https://twitter.com/DrRosena/status/125 ... 51522?s=20
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Sorry, badly worded.
Her tone of voice didn't come across as at all angry. Her body language had the look of a woman constraining her rage, for sure, but her voice didn't, which makes Hancock's dickish response even more dickish
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Yes IMO it was a racist, sexist comment, but because he didn't say anything racist and sexist anyone who doesn't already agree thinks you're being ridiculous because nobody could possibly be racist and sexist unless they use actual racist and sexist language. And if she calls him out on it she will be mocked.
I remember seeing a clip of Dawn Butler calling Boris Johnson racist on some TV news chat show thing and the presenters lost their sh.t, presumably because no Prime Minister could ever be racist. Which is a pretty big problem eh.
I remember seeing a clip of Dawn Butler calling Boris Johnson racist on some TV news chat show thing and the presenters lost their sh.t, presumably because no Prime Minister could ever be racist. Which is a pretty big problem eh.
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This is particularly frustrating as one does not even need to infer anything from his actions, there's been explicit statements from him before.discovolante wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:30 pmI remember seeing a clip of Dawn Butler calling Boris Johnson racist on some TV news chat show thing and the presenters lost their sh.t, presumably because no Prime Minister could ever be racist. Which is a pretty big problem eh.
ETA: Not to say that one can't infer prejudice from actions, obviously, and it fits with Johnson, but people losing their sh.t over someone being accused of being racist, when he's said downright racist stuff openly, is pretty ridiculous.
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Yes exactly.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:52 pmThis is particularly frustrating as one does not even need to infer anything from his actions, there's been explicit statements from him before.discovolante wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:30 pmI remember seeing a clip of Dawn Butler calling Boris Johnson racist on some TV news chat show thing and the presenters lost their sh.t, presumably because no Prime Minister could ever be racist. Which is a pretty big problem eh.
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Looks like that to me - especially a woman who is far better qualified and experienced in the relevant area than him (what exactly is Hancock qualified and experienced in?).
It's so much more attractive inside the moral kiosk
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Funnily enough, PPE. He got a first. I wonder if that's where he gets confused now.
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The one area of the public realm where a shortage of PPE would be appreciated.discovolante wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:01 pmFunnily enough, PPE. He got a first. I wonder if that's where he gets confused now.
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Shame the philosophy P didn't have more on ethics. Or maybe he skipped that bit.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:28 pmThe one area of the public realm where a shortage of PPE would be appreciated.discovolante wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 5:01 pmFunnily enough, PPE. He got a first. I wonder if that's where he gets confused now.
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Yes.discovolante wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:30 pmYes IMO it was a racist, sexist comment, but because he didn't say anything racist and sexist anyone who doesn't already agree thinks you're being ridiculous because nobody could possibly be racist and sexist unless they use actual racist and sexist language. And if she calls him out on it she will be mocked.
I remember seeing a clip of Dawn Butler calling Boris Johnson racist on some TV news chat show thing and the presenters lost their sh.t, presumably because no Prime Minister could ever be racist. Which is a pretty big problem eh.
Still he's probably sunk his political career with that one statement. And Dr Allin-Khan really looked appropriately angry, but controlled and civil. And also far his superior.
And not only better-qualified, but also quicker-witted.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation