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That Linehan *censored* again.

Post by nezumi » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:08 pm

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/02/21/g ... -backlash/

Seriously, what kind of disorder do you have to have to even remotely think this is ok?

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Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:29 pm

Thanks for posting the thread, nezumi. There's no need to delete it, it's a topic that's perfectly valid for discussion, though obviously care is, as you say, very much required.
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Post by Tessa K » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm

What the actual f.ck? What kind of disordered mind would come up with this idea?

ETA: Sorry, that was my instant angry response. A more considered, calm response will follow... probably

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Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:47 pm

Some people may question why Linehan has gone down such a long and dark path of horrific transphobia, bullying, and just generally being a c.nt in the last ten or so years. Essentially, it started when he wrote an episode of the IT crowd which was (in my opinion) a pretty good one in most respects, but it featured an off-colour thread of jokes throughout about someone being trans, and some comedy about how that meant they lived their lives. TBH at the time I didn't think much of it myself (I had the barest awareness of trans rights issues back then), but I see now why the trans community took against it.

Anyway, some criticism came Linehan's way, and it seemed to launch him on this journey of discuntery eventually leading to him being one of the few blue tick people on twitter who've had their account removed. He's said a lot of things which are absolutely horrific, and the obsessively abusive path he's travelled down in the last few years doesn't appear to have done him any good.

People can read about some of the things he's said and done related to transpeople on wikipedia.
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Post by bjn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:50 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm
What the actual f.ck? What kind of disordered mind would come up with this idea?

ETA: Sorry, that was my instant angry response. A more considered, calm response will follow... probably
Rage away.

I'm just completely befuddled as to how he got to the point where he could consider this as a thing he should do.

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Post by jimbob » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:07 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm
What the actual f.ck? What kind of disordered mind would come up with this idea?

ETA: Sorry, that was my instant angry response. A more considered, calm response will follow... probably
Having read the article, that seems like a considered and calm response
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Post by cvb » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am

I used to genuinely like him. He came across very well when I heard him on panel shows.

Then he seemed to go f.cking insane with this trans gender hate stuff.

History will not look well on his like, and others in a similar boat.

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Post by Tessa K » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:36 am

I've just been rereading a book about the Crusades. People do all sorts of terrible things when they think they're justified and see themselves as heroes fighting for a good cause, even without religion. Vileness becomes normal, especially when there are rewards - either booty or fame or applause. Dissenting voices are easy to ignore.

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Post by plodder » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:59 am

Not that this should matter, but I wonder what he's *actually* trying to express here? It's all a bit Freudian.

I can be a little insensitive to where the line is with this stuff, apols if this crosses it for anyone.

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Post by discovolante » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:00 am

cvb wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am
I used to genuinely like him. He came across very well when I heard him on panel shows.

Then he seemed to go f.cking insane with this trans gender hate stuff.

History will not look well on his like, and others in a similar boat.
He had a reputation for being pretty grumpy on Twitter before he got into the anti trans stuff. It was a slow burn.
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Post by JQH » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:38 am

jimbob wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:07 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 pm
What the actual f.ck? What kind of disordered mind would come up with this idea?

ETA: Sorry, that was my instant angry response. A more considered, calm response will follow... probably
Having read the article, that seems like a considered and calm response
Agreed.
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Post by cvb » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:21 am

discovolante wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:00 am
cvb wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am
I used to genuinely like him. He came across very well when I heard him on panel shows.

Then he seemed to go f.cking insane with this trans gender hate stuff.

History will not look well on his like, and others in a similar boat.
He had a reputation for being pretty grumpy on Twitter before he got into the anti trans stuff. It was a slow burn.
I do not twit. From what I heard of him he seemed to be a bit irascible but not a dick. He has definitely gone full dickwad here.

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Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:30 am

What a c.nt. Lock him up in Azkaban with the other transphobic bigots.
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Post by discovolante » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:43 am

cvb wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:21 am
discovolante wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:00 am
cvb wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am
I used to genuinely like him. He came across very well when I heard him on panel shows.

Then he seemed to go f.cking insane with this trans gender hate stuff.

History will not look well on his like, and others in a similar boat.
He had a reputation for being pretty grumpy on Twitter before he got into the anti trans stuff. It was a slow burn.
I do not twit. From what I heard of him he seemed to be a bit irascible but not a dick. He has definitely gone full dickwad here.
I think thin skinned might be a better way to describe him. My reference point as to whether he was just a bit of a grump or something worse than that is that I'm pretty sure I saw him getting off a tube carriage I was getting on some time ago, and I consciously decided to give him a wide berth (not that I have a habit of hassling celebs who are going about their business anyway but still, it's more about the instinctive reaction I had I suppose).
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Post by jimbob » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 pm

cvb wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am
I used to genuinely like him. He came across very well when I heard him on panel shows.

Then he seemed to go f.cking insane with this trans gender hate stuff.

History will not look well on his like, and others in a similar boat.
I thought he seemed reasonable ... but then as you said.
Tessa K wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:36 am
I've just been rereading a book about the Crusades. People do all sorts of terrible things when they think they're justified and see themselves as heroes fighting for a good cause, even without religion. Vileness becomes normal, especially when there are rewards - either booty or fame or applause. Dissenting voices are easy to ignore.
Yes, there is a definite subset who seem to think that transgender people are "just pretending" and that to defend women they have to suppress transgender rights. JK Rowling being another obvious one who also has a huge blindspot.

And as you say, feeling that one is on the side of the angels often makes one prone to such behaviour. See also many of the conspiracy theory trolls, being absolutely vile because they think that, say Covid is a scamdemic to enable mind-control or something.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Post by jimbob » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:54 am

Related... not sure whether this should be a split or not.

But following the Mr Potato Head thing, this is from a bloke I started following for his CBRN expertise.

https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/1 ... 46080?s=20
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He's had a varied career. Chemical warfare protection, US Secret Service, Verger at St Martin's in the Fields, and recently Assoc Fellow at RUSI.

One of those is not like the others.
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