Scrutable

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:08 pm Anyway, I was going to say, CNN are now reporting that trump is having breathing difficulties. If that's true, it seems quite early in the timeline compared to average?

EACLucifer wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:05 am

MonkeyWrench wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 am

EACLucifer wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:27 am People wot pay attention to these things reporting these things - Boeing E6b Mercurys - now patrolling both coasts of America, in case anyone wants to be even more worried.



Their job is to to maintain communication between America's nuclear forces, and can remote control launch of Minuteman ICBMs. Almost certainly a signal to other powers that the president being ill doesn't mean they should be trying anything.

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/13119 ... 04161?s=20
They've been flying regularly for the last month.

Thanks for that

Woodchopper wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:18 pm His last tweet is a bit odd
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 04192?s=21

lpm wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:09 pm It's such bad lying it's probably deliberately bad?

E.g. Dr Conley says in his memo that he misspoke when he said Regeneron was administered 48 hours ago, it was actually on Friday. But it wasn't him who said it. That was a different Dr.

And he misspelled Regeneron.

lpm wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:45 pm No.

It's currently 53-47. Assuming all Democrats can attend, it would need 6 Republicans to be dead/dying/hospitalised/quarantined/fled to Moscow, plus Pence as acting Pres. I think it's like the Speaker's Rule in the House of Commons - a motion for the Democrats to seize control of the Senate would need to win, not tie.

But the way they would do it would be to hold a vote for president pro tempore, defeat Grassley, and then set the timetables.

FlammableFlower wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:23 pm Mark Meadows on camera: everything's fine, Trump's doing well

Mark Meadows thinking he was off camera: the next 48 hours will be critical

The two don't quite marry up...

dyqik wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:41 pm

lpm wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:09 pm It's such bad lying it's probably deliberately bad?

E.g. Dr Conley says in his memo that he misspoke when he said Regeneron was administered 48 hours ago, it was actually on Friday. But it wasn't him who said it. That was a different Dr.

And he misspelled Regeneron.

And said polygonal antibodies when a Regeneron spokesperson said he's on two monoclonal antibodies.

dyqik wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:41 pm

lpm wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:09 pm It's such bad lying it's probably deliberately bad?

E.g. Dr Conley says in his memo that he misspoke when he said Regeneron was administered 48 hours ago, it was actually on Friday. But it wasn't him who said it. That was a different Dr.

And he misspelled Regeneron.

And said polygonal antibodies when a Regeneron spokesperson said he's on two monoclonal antibodies.

AMS wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:55 pm

dyqik wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:41 pm

lpm wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:09 pm It's such bad lying it's probably deliberately bad?

E.g. Dr Conley says in his memo that he misspoke when he said Regeneron was administered 48 hours ago, it was actually on Friday. But it wasn't him who said it. That was a different Dr.

And he misspelled Regeneron.

And said polygonal antibodies when a Regeneron spokesperson said he's on two monoclonal antibodies.

It looks like there's a degree of panic to this. It's what happens when a cult is missing its leader.

Grumble wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:04 pm

AMS wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:55 pm

dyqik wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:41 pm

And said polygonal antibodies when a Regeneron spokesperson said he's on two monoclonal antibodies.

It looks like there's a degree of panic to this. It's what happens when a cult is missing its leader.

It is a good example of how lying ties you up in knots, especially when multiple people are required to sustain the untruth. I reckon it could be a teachable example of how grand conspiracies are bound to fall apart. One fairly simple thing, that you would absolutely expect a degree of spin around, the health of the president, becomes a tangled web of lies and half-truths. If they just stuck to telling the truth, even with a degree of spin, it would be so much easier. Also, they’ve witnessed Trump telling blatant lies and getting away with it for so long maybe they thought they could do the same!

Aitch wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:18 pm For some reason, I get a protocol error whenever I try to look at any of these Twitter links. Is it just me or is there a problem with Twitter?

AMS wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:22 pm To be fair, you would expect there to be a plan of what to do for this fairly predictable circumstance worked out in advance, rather than having to improvise on the day.

Aitch wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:18 pm For some reason, I get a protocol error whenever I try to look at any of these Twitter links. Is it just me or is there a problem with Twitter?

dyqik wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:38 pm

AMS wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:22 pm To be fair, you would expect there to be a plan of what to do for this fairly predictable circumstance worked out in advance, rather than having to improvise on the day.

Not from this administration, you wouldn't.

Secret Service agents expressed their anger and frustration to colleagues and friends Friday, saying that the president’s actions have repeatedly put them at risk. “He’s never cared about us,” one agent told a confidant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal reaction.

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:10 pm Yerbut the secret service think he's a div

Secret Service agents expressed their anger and frustration to colleagues and friends Friday, saying that the president’s actions have repeatedly put them at risk. “He’s never cared about us,” one agent told a confidant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal reaction.

Grumble wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:24 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:10 pm Yerbut the secret service think he's a div

Secret Service agents expressed their anger and frustration to colleagues and friends Friday, saying that the president’s actions have repeatedly put them at risk. “He’s never cared about us,” one agent told a confidant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal reaction.

I’m sure they do, wouldn’t doubt it for a moment, but they will work to protect the president even so.

Woodchopper wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:18 pm His last tweet is a bit odd
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 04192?s=21