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Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:46 pm
by shpalman
bjn wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:41 pm
shpalman wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:28 pm
Some Italian students would like to remind Elon what happens to fascists:
https://www.euronews.com/2025/01/22/ita ... -strung-up
Not that I think the communists did particularly well either, and the
Italians didn't have such a problem with Mussolini until he started losing.
Tell that to my uncles and grandfather who were beaten up and tortured by Fascists because they thought Mussolini was a dick. One was eventually shot and left for dead but survived by hiding out in the hills.
What fraction of the population thought he was a dick, what fraction of the population were willing to actively beat people up who thought he was a dick, and what fraction just went along with it until 1943?
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:51 pm
by bjn
Given that Mussolini never had anything approaching a majority for his FIC party in the 1921 election, and there were running street battles between the likes of my uncles and the Fascists until the March on Rome, there was quite a bit of opposition actually. Then he got the levers of state power because the King was also a tremendous dick and a coward, and it was down hill from there.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:05 am
by Tessa K
A friend told me that Insta is forcing her to follow Trump. If she Unfollows he comes back.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:44 pm
by jaap
Things are turning openly fascist very quickly.
His
executive order attacking DEIA (diversity, equity, inclusion, accessibility) under the guise of reducing spending is now being enacted.
This official
memorandum has an email template in appendix 1 which was sent out by the heads of most federal agencies to all employees.
It basically shuts down everything related to DEIA. If anyone was hired under the DEIA programs, they are fired. If anyone tries to claim they’re not a DEIA hire when they are, you have to snitch them out. If you don’t snitch, there will be consequences.
It is astonishing how blatant this is.
Edit: He already
fired the female head of the coast guard and replaced her by a less qualified man.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:14 am
by Chris Preston
A Republican Congressman has introduced a bill to the House to amend the US Constitution to allow Trump to run for a third term.
It has no chance of success, but does signal widely to the world that the Republican congress is a cult of personality.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:52 am
by headshot
Chris Preston wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:14 am
A Republican Congressman has introduced a bill to the House to amend the US Constitution to allow Trump to run for a third term.
It has no chance of success, but does signal widely to the world that the Republican congress is a cult of personality.
The proposal would only allow a third term for a president who has served two non-consecutive terms,
conveniently cynically ruling out the ability of Obama or Clinton to run again.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:43 am
by Stranger Mouse
Things don’t look good for Trump’s handling of bird flu. Bird flu is found in raw milk and Robert Kennedy is a raw milk fan who wants the guy who runs Raw Farm to be an adviser to the FDA.
This Raw Farm (interesting table at the bottom)
https://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/mu ... -raw-milk/
To make absolutely sure we have a pandemic Trump is putting freezes on NIH communication, meetings and travel (I’ve heard suggestions that this is because they are hunting ways to clamp down on DEI and research that benefits minorities but no confirmation).
Also apparently American bald eagles are getting bird flu now which I’m sure isn’t an omen
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 389532002/
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:03 pm
by Martin Y
Tessa K wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:05 am
A friend told me that Insta is forcing her to follow Trump. If she Unfollows he comes back.
I heard a lot of people following Biden suddenly and unexpectedly found they were following Trump because they hadn't appreciated they were actually following POTUS.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:10 pm
by Martin Y
jaap wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:44 pm
Things are turning openly fascist very quickly.
His
executive order attacking DEIA (diversity, equity, inclusion, accessibility) under the guise of reducing spending is now being enacted.
This official
memorandum has an email template in appendix 1 which was sent out by the heads of most federal agencies to all employees.
It basically shuts down everything related to DEIA. If anyone was hired under the DEIA programs, they are fired. If anyone tries to claim they’re not a DEIA hire when they are, you have to snitch them out. If you don’t snitch, there will be consequences.
It is astonishing how blatant this is.
Edit: He already
fired the female head of the coast guard and replaced her by a less qualified man.
I may have got it wrong but I don't
think this EO fires all DEI hires, it fires all DEI officers.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:35 pm
by bolo
Also I don't think it actually fires them. It puts them on paid leave and abolishes their positions. For most of them, they will have civil service protections that guarantee* them a transfer to a different position within the same agency.
* Almost
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:55 pm
by IvanV
He said he'd be a dictator for a day. What does that mean? If it means anything, it ought to mean getting away with exceeding or extending his formal powers.
So we have seen his huge list of executive orders, prepared in advance. Whilst it is extraordinary to issue so many in a day, presidents issue executive order. Is there any evidence that he will actually succeed in exceeding or extending his powers?
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm
by bjn
He's put real fear into the Danes. JFC, and this is an ally who have allowed US to site as many bases as they want on their land they for decades.
This is turning the US from not merely an unreliable partner, but a pathologically hostile one. Which is frankly terrifying. If the UK isn't looking at a wholesale defence posture review, it bl..dy well should be.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... nd-denmark
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm
by Gfamily
His sacking of 17 Inspectors General is not going as well as he'd thought
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Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 pm
by Martin Y
bjn wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm
He's put real fear into the Danes. JFC, and this is an ally who have allowed US to site as many bases as they want on their land they for decades.
This is turning the US from not merely an unreliable partner, but a pathologically hostile one. Which is frankly terrifying. If the UK isn't looking at a wholesale defence posture review, it bl..dy well should be.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... nd-denmark
I'm sure Trump will reassure us he has no further territorial demands.
Except Panama. And Canada.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
by dyqik
Martin Y wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 pm
bjn wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm
He's put real fear into the Danes. JFC, and this is an ally who have allowed US to site as many bases as they want on their land they for decades.
This is turning the US from not merely an unreliable partner, but a pathologically hostile one. Which is frankly terrifying. If the UK isn't looking at a wholesale defence posture review, it bl..dy well should be.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... nd-denmark
I'm sure Trump will reassure us he has no further territorial demands.
Except Panama. And Canada.
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:20 pm
by monkey
dyqik wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
Martin Y wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 pm
bjn wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm
He's put real fear into the Danes. JFC, and this is an ally who have allowed US to site as many bases as they want on their land they for decades.
This is turning the US from not merely an unreliable partner, but a pathologically hostile one. Which is frankly terrifying. If the UK isn't looking at a wholesale defence posture review, it bl..dy well should be.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... nd-denmark
I'm sure Trump will reassure us he has no further territorial demands.
Except Panama. And Canada.
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
He's also threatening to send troops into Mexico.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:53 pm
by bjn
According to Greg Palast voter suppression is what cost Kamala the presidency, millions of mainly black votes rejected or the voters were purged from the rolls. He estimates it cost her 3.5 million votes. This would explain the “swing” to Trump of black voters.
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-v ... ssion-won/
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:33 pm
by Grumble
monkey wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:20 pm
dyqik wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
Martin Y wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 pm
I'm sure Trump will reassure us he has no further territorial demands.
Except Panama. And Canada.
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
He's also threatening to send troops into Mexico.
America needs Mexico for NATIONAL SECURITY
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:32 pm
by Martin Y
Grumble wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:33 pm
monkey wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:20 pm
dyqik wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
He's also threatening to send troops into Mexico.
America needs Mexico for NATIONAL SECURITY
Time for a Special Military Operation. They're terribly fashionable, I hear.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:44 pm
by discovolante
monkey wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:20 pm
dyqik wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
Martin Y wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 pm
I'm sure Trump will reassure us he has no further territorial demands.
Except Panama. And Canada.
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
He's also threatening to send troops into Mexico.
That's a war I'd probably go join tbh.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:00 pm
by nekomatic
dyqik wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:12 pm
Then there's the charged topic of Coulombia (sp?).
I hear the movement on Coulombia was largely driven by pressure from Burkina Faso.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:36 pm
by FlammableFlower
Trump's something of an embodiment of tweedledee and tweedledum with his executive orders that they have to clarify as to what they actually mean.
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:09 pm
by dyqik
FlammableFlower wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:36 pm
Trump's something of an embodiment of tweedledee and tweedledum with his executive orders that they have to clarify as to what they actually mean.
And which provide direct evidence of their own illegality
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:39 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Anyone else watching the the RFK jnr hearing?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyw5l584knt
Re: Trump 2.0
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:45 pm
by Stranger Mouse
A 3 minute video showing the third Kennedy assassination. Well worth watching.
https://x.com/p_kallioniemi/status/1884 ... 34483?s=61